On Mon, 2005-25-07 at 15:49 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
> jamal wrote:

> > Name is not totaly sane either:
> > I think one of the fscked s/ware i have seen is pppd that tries
> > to recycle names immediately with the same name but different ifindex.
> > It should probably use ppp<ifindex> for name.
> 
> That would play merry hell with user-space applications that need to know
> what the name of the ppp interface is that they just created
> programatically.  There are options to give to pppd to specify the 'X'
> in the pppX name, by the way.

I dont use pppd anymore these days; however, that may be insufficient
to guarantee uniqueness unless somehow it gets mapped to the ifindex.
Also a lot of scripts assume the nature of reusing names. You will piss
off a gazillion people if you changed the behavior.

> > In theory, one should be able from user space to really configure the
> > ifindex; we dont allow for it even for devices that are virtual.
> 
> Might work at creation time, but you can't be certain that someone else
> hasn't already used the index, at least not easily, 

Why not easily? It should be pretty trivial to tell user space "the
ifindex you want is in use"; return -EEXIST

> so I don't see it gaining you very much.

The places (not linux) where it is used it does gain in consistency.
Linux (and a few other OSes, I should add) assume that scanning the bus
for example implies you alloc a netdevice and give it an ifindex.
If we assumed that we only do that after we ifconfig up a device the
first time (and disallow it afterwards), then we could easily have a
user space app defining what the ifindex should be.

cheers,
jamal



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