Maybe one way to approach this would be to ask everyone in NetCAT to list 3 of the issues they filed that they'd prioritize for fixing over all others, regardless of whether they're blockers, i.e., simply 'my world would be a good deal better if the following 3 were to be fixed', just add them as a response in this thread.
Gj On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:28 PM Alexander Romanenko < [email protected]> wrote: > I was setting "affected version" to 10 for my issues - it looked like that > was the label for this iteration of testing, so could maybe search by that > too. > > пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:18, Geertjan Wielenga > <[email protected]>: > > > Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during the > NetCAT > > program. > > > > I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed, which > ones > > can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT can check > > whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and then add a > > 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to be > > prioritized, etc. > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Why do we need such filter? > > > > > > -Jirka > > > > > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a): > > > > > > > Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using JIRA > > labels > > > > for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues. That would allow you to filter. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the > > NetCAT > > > >> program? > > > >> > > > >> Gj > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander, > > > >>> > > > >>> here are my thoughts. > > > >>> > > > >>>> 1. Tickets in strange state > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay attention > > to > > > >>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are gone. > > With > > > >>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address each > > > >>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev > team > > is > > > >>>> you. > > > >>> > > > >>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people who > have > > > no > > > >>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, > HTML, > > > >> C/C++). > > > >>> > > > >>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own > > > >>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works. Good > > news > > > >>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying to > > > >>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and setting > > > their > > > >>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do that? > > > >>> > > > >>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated to > > the > > > >>> process) that we should focus on testing only. > > > >>> > > > >>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no > > > dedicated > > > >>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for > > developing > > > >>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't > raise > > > this > > > >>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, the > > > >> landscape > > > >>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it. > > > >>> > > > >>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset for > > > >>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their > tribe > > > >>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing the > > > work > > > >>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding about > > > >>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious > ones > > to > > > >>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If these > > do > > > >>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program > coordinators > > > >>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT participants > with > > > >>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration. > > > >>> > > > >>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are > still > > > >>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time that > > > much. > > > >>> > > > >>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports > summarizing > > > >>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew where > it > > > was > > > >>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that NetCAT > > was > > > >>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for > themselves > > > how > > > >> to > > > >>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, suits > > me > > > >>> better :) > > > >>> > > > >>> Michal > > > >>> > > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >>> > > > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > >>> > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=bav55yn4OB_qRWlPyg-3eJxbD1-VSSiM3rlfkRSmb04&s=F_nGJasZFETJzbaEQ5jlaHNRp9JVwzJm8vodU36w0M4&e= > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > >
