I post on Fb also because I reach people I wouldn't otherwise. But Fb
frightens me; what started off close to a message board has become more
and move involved in manipulation of consciousness. Remember people's
birthday; tell X this or that; the change to large-font proclamation-
style text if you post a short statement; the constant automatic changing
to 'top stories' from 'most recent; the disguise of advertising as
content; 'suggested pages'; 'trending'; 'people you may know' with the
imperative 'add friend'; and a deep inability to control _any_ of this.
G+ is worse at this point, constantly trying to get me to 'like'
'collections' of images that are useless and get in the way of any
possible discussion. I'd leave both but then I'd be leaving people who
still interest me. It's frightening, though, how much control
Zuckerbargain and company have over the rest of us - particularly people
who take all of this for granted.
In the meantime the weather here is wonderfully horrendous -
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, x wrote:
It does seem curious how:
* when arab spring has sprang, fb was happy to claim and collect praises and
acolytes.
* when authoritarianism/alt-right popped their recent champaign bubbles out
of plebs' sweat, tears and fears - fb is just a neutral tech, never ever
been to any events remotely like "tech is not neutral" -
nor have we, fb, ever heard of, nor from, ted nelson and such.
* when the above assertion of neutrality became controversial somehow with
"liberal minded" acolytes, it became profitable to keep the bubble
algorithms (that entertain and feed ad money), and go for xenophobia - errr
censorship - which is exactly the stuff "liberal minded" people happened to
demand.
Indeed, perhaps "fb - we abuse people, intelligence, algorithms, anything,
you tag it" might well do for an honest logo/tag-line? Oh.. but is it not
"post-truth" golden handshake? err, time..?
Cheers and hope you survived the rant intact...
aharon
xx
(going to disturb the good people of newhaven with questions from art
shortly..)
November 30 2016 10:03 AM, "AGF poemproducer" <[email protected]> wrote:
it is also one of the 2 biggest super-imperialists using our
digital labour, fake news distributer +++privacy abuser etc
On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:47, Charlotte Elizabeth Webb
<[email protected]> wrote:
Last night I was watching Astra Taylor give a keynote for the
2016 Rhizome Seven on Seven event, and she made a good point
that 'purity' re: Facebook (i.e. not being there on principle)
is counter-effective when it comes to political organising,
because it is simply where the people are.
X Charlotte
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Sent: 30 November 2016 09:23
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2912,
Issue 1
Alan, leave facebook and keep posting
agee
On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:11, x <[email protected]>
wrote:
Utterly agree here with Michael, Ruth, and I suspect many
others, and others I've missed.
Will def miss Alan's stuff if it were on FB as FB isn't
going to be on my network anytime soon.
+
Alan, if most posts went to FB, would it not be an
illustration of how the "feed-bubble" is wrapping goo over
mindful attention spans?
Alan --> Please Don't Go!
Perhaps my time recall requires an apology, was it not
only a few months back when we've discussed how NB could
be at times so many people use the fb. I think neterarti
came as a response to that conversation?
Surely, when a person - or just me (?) - signs up to a
mailinglist, it's with Otherness within a certain range
that you go for? Other rather than a bubble? And by
extension, a bit of Adorno's notion of "art" as un-able to
be entertaining, "art" as a radical that constantly links
away from cultural comforting beats?
Cheers!
aharon
xxx
November 30 2016 8:51 AM, "ruth catlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Agreed!
Same!
Alan, You are the highly valued artistic
"ping" of Netbehaviour.
It's been a while - but there have been times
when many more of us posted work regularly.
I for one would love to what Netbehaviour
people are up to on a more daily basis.
If it wasn't for Annie's post last week, I
would not have got to experience the networked
"feeling" experiment hosted by The Nunnery
Gallery last week- which changed the way I
listen to machines.
Please people, don't hold back.
Ruth
On 30/11/16 08:18, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
Please don't cut down Alan. People are
grown ups and can exercise some choice
as to what they view.
I don't look at everything you post by any
means but I'm glad it's there.
michael
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From: Alan Sondheim <[email protected]>
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed
creativity <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour
Digest, Vol 2912, Issue 1
I'm cutting back on my posts on Nb; I don't
want to be either a nuisance
or feel responsible for unsubbing. I'll post
every few days w/ urls; the
usual daily sludge will be on Fb -
- Alan
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