Hi Rene, First of all, thank you for being considerate of me. :-)
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 02:22:33PM +0200, Rene Kita wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 12:59:48PM +0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > > Excuse my insistence, but I use vi-like bindings even in my shell, after > > using mutt for decades I still insult RMS every time I mistakenly press > > Esc to abort a command. :-) > > > > Could you give my patches *one* chance or at least let me know why they > > are ignored, please? > > > > https://en.roquesor.com/Downloads/muttesckey.tar.gz > > While I can't say why your patches are ignored, I can say that they will > not be accepted until Kevin changes his mind or we find a solution on > the way towards a v2.3, see this[0] mail from two years ago. > > I had a very quick look at your proposed patches and my first impression > was, that adding another special case for one key is not the correct > approach for a patch going mainline. It's reasonable as a patch, but as > a general solution I think is preferable to have an option to configure > an abort key. Some people might prefer ^C to abort or some other key. I think you're confusing (shell) cancel with abort. Ctrl-C is also there. Besides, giving the user an option to choose any key binding to abort is difficult to accomplish for the way this special binding was hardcoded in mutt. It's not *my approach*, is the way mutt has been designed and coded. I didn't investigate it enough but I remember reading (please correct me if I'm wrong) that it's ncurses what narrows the choice with this particular action. Notice that it's not only mutt, all ncurses applications are flexible in letting you choose key bindings for everything except for abort. Personally I modify or customize my system only when it's absolutely necessary, I build on what's already done, I don't try to reinvent the wheel. Emacs and vi are the traditional editing modes, I chose vi because as a BSD user I found it less problematic (the meta key doesn't always work, see in muttrc(5) the "meta_key" option). So far mutt forces you to use Ctrl-G (emacs-like binding), with my patches you also have the vi-like binding version. If all ncurses-based applications let you do this (w3m comes also to mind) I would be more than satisfied. > > Just my 2 cents after thinking for less than 5 minutes. ;) > > 0: http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20220221/001339.html > Think about how much work it would relieve the maintainer (one example among many) to let SMTP, IMAP and POP client functionality to software specifically designed, created and maintained for that purpose. This is not *my approach* either, this is Unix philosophy. -- Walter
