I'm new to the group and I am loving it all! Cathy from Salt Spring On 2012-02-19, at 8:34 PM, evelia cadet wrote:
> Thank you Renee and all of you for the great comments and ideas. I love this > group!! > > Evelia > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:07:51 -0800 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance >> >> I would say that determining importance is important in getting to >> the main idea, and establishing the main idea is helpful in >> determining importance. Big help, huh? >> >> Kids need to know both. Determining importance helps them remember >> and retell stories. But knowing the main idea is useful in >> recommending books to other people; it reduces things down to one or >> two sentences. >> >> Renee >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:03 PM, evelia cadet wrote: >> >>> Are determining importance and finding the author's main idea the >>> same thing? If they are not, are they related? How? HELP! >>> >>> Evelia >>> >>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Palmer, Jennifer >>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:23 AM >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance >>> >>> It's the testing culture Renee. We test low level and that drives >>> instruction. Think about main idea ... And it's relationship to >>> what we are talking about. Determining importance becomes a game to >>> guess what test authors feel is important... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 12:01 PM, "Renee" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I wonder what would happen if we just asked a student, "Why is >>>> this important?" I'm thinking in a context, for example, of my own >>>> lesson, when the student asked how Washington's face got on Mount >>>> Rushmore. These were third graders. I can easily imagine a student >>>> ansswering, "it isn't" and I could also easily imagine a student >>>> giving a reason, maybe something like, "well, because he was so >>>> important that they put him on a mountain so how did that happen?" >>>> >>>> I think it's a good question: Why is this important? It has that >>>> lovely open-endedness that helps us learn what's going on the mind >>>> of a student. >>>> >>>> And by the way.... in my substituting travels to various >>>> classrooms, I am finding every year that it's harder and harder to >>>> get kids to answer open-ended questions with any kind of >>>> confidence. That frightens me. >>>> >>>> Renee >>>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Palmer, Jennifer wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree Renee. What I often do is spend a little time talking >>>>> about our purpose for reading first and letting that guide the >>>>> discussion ... I think it was Kylie Beers that uses the example >>>>> of a text that is a description of a beautiful home. An interior >>>>> decorator, a real estate agent and a thief, all would find >>>>> different things in the text to be important because their >>>>> purposes for reading would be quite different. >>>> >>>> It is possible to store the mind with a million facts and still be >>>> entirely uneducated. >>>> ~ Alec Bourne >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >>> >> >> Public Education: >> It's a right, not a race. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
