Thanks everyone... I suspected this was the case but wanted to be sure I 
wasn't missing anything. I'm going to look into using PAST first, since I'm 
not the most comfortable in R. 

On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 5:34:57 AM UTC-8 Adams, Dean [EEOB] wrote:

> In R use geomorph.
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> Dear Marianna,
> the tests are parametric in MorphoJ as far as I know. 
> One can do the permutations in R. If you have also a main factor, however, 
> it is a bit convoluted to design it (or at least I found only a convoluted 
> way of doing it). You'll find a description in a footnote in Table 1 of 
> https://europeanjournaloftaxonomy.eu/index.php/ejt/article/view/2527
> If you're analyzing symmetry/asymmetry, the 'trick' I used needs to be 
> reworked and may not work but it should be possible to do an equivalent 
> analysis in one of the morphometric packages (morpho, geomorph, not sure 
> about momocs).
> I am sure a skilled R coder will be able to suggest better ways.
> Good luck. 
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
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> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 04:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
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> Dear morphmet members,  
> I expect this will be a relatively easy question. 
> Does the Procrustes ANOVA in MorphoJ use permutations? I don't see it as 
> an option, though I see it in regression and in Matrix correlation.
> I expect that since there isn't an option for it, then it is not a 
> permutation-based test, but it seems so odd that it wouldn't be. 
> I can't find it in the documentation, and I'm convinced it must be there 
> and I'm missing it. If there is something that discusses this, could you 
> kindly point me to it. 
> Thanks in advance, 
> Marianna C.
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