Dear all,

I am studying bite curve shapes of 650 insect species. The bite curve 
graphs are described by polynomial models with six degrees, of which I can 
get 100 graph point coordinates using the function predict(). Currently, I 
have two main questions regarding phylogenetic signal in that data:

1) Can I test for phylogenetic signal given the high non-independence of 
consecutive graph points?  I see two possible inputs for the 
geomorph::physignal() function, of which the latter seems to be more 
problematic in that regard: I could use the six polynomials + intercept per 
species, or the 100 predicted coordinates per species. The difference, 
however, seems marginal:

*data p Kmult iterations*
polynomials 0.0001 0.105 10000
predicetd values 0.0001 0.113 10000

If you have an opinion on this, I would be very glad to hear about it.

2) As you can see, while being statistically significant, the Kmult-values 
are very low, indicating that species are less similar to each other than 
with a Brownian trait evolution. However, the Kmult-signal itself is in 
such a low range that some authors have decided to not take phylogeny into 
account (phylogenetic 'correction') in their own subsequent analyses. 
Should I correct for phylogeny or not? And again: would the polynomials 
instead of the predicted coordinates be a better choice for running 
phylogenetically informed analyses, or is such kind of data not suited to 
be phylogenetically corrected at all?

Best regards and many thanks in advance,
Peter

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Peter T. Rühr

Bonn Institute of Organismic Biology (BIOB)
Section Biodiversity of Animals
University of Bonn
An der Immenburg 1
53121 Bonn, Germany

Phone: +49 (0) 228 73 5115

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