Thank you very much!

Julien Claude <[email protected]> 于2021年3月24日周三 上午12:29写道:

> Dear Xuziqiang35,
>
> the problem is that for several groups, you have just one or very few
> observations.
> It would be non sense to add more variables or to extrapolate them, and,
> then to expect that you will find "significant" differences. Some
> differences here can not be tested as within group sample variance can not
> be estimated.The one P value you observed would be better interpreted as
> Non Available pvalues.
> Think that the estimates of the mean, even if you have more than one
> observation, are also estimate and that they might be influenced by
> sampling too !!!
>
> There has been several recent papers posted here recently (related to
> BgPCA) but not only (cf recent paper of J. Rohlf posted at the end of last
> year), maybe you should have a look.
> As some species are represented by just one specimens, I would recommend
> regrouping species and reformulating the problematic according to your
> sample (for avoiding to test something that cannot be tested).
>
> On one other point, it would be good in the future to put an object on
> message (it might help other people for archiving message they got from the
> list).
>
> best regards,
>
> Julien CLAUDE
> Institut des Sciences de l'Evolution de Montpellier
>
>
>
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> *De: *"徐自强" <[email protected]>
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> *Objet: *[MORPHMET2]
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> Hello, teachers.
> I am a student who recently learned to apply geometric morphometry to
> fossil wing variation studies, but I have run into some challenges I cannot
> solve on my own and would like to seek support.
> First, I considered using landmark, but the variability is not obvious.
> Since many data related to vein sequence curvature are not included, I next
> considered introducing semiland for analysis, but some important vein
> sequences are missing, making it difficult to obtain semiland points
> effectively.
> Finally, can the effect of too much semiland on the landmark data be
> reduced?
> Ag Bc Ca Nm No Sg Sp Ss represent different species respectively. The
> dashed part in the picture is repaired according to other fossils, but some
> fossils are more or less difficult to repair in the red circle part of the
> vestiges.
> I would like to get some advice, thank you very much!
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