Well, I look forward to seeing the full docs however it happens and I look 
forward to getting to learn the system.

Thanks in advance for all of your hard work on this! And if there is 
anything I can do to pitch in please let me know.

Jon

On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:48:29 PM UTC-7, Nutron wrote:
>
> It's about half placeholders. This repo is the combination of a few others 
> - Cliencide, more-behaviors, mootools-bootstrap, and then our internal 
> stuff at Thanx. So I combined a lot of the assets of those things into this 
> repo but haven't gone through and added stuff that was missing (all our 
> internal stuff at Thanx was using a different documentation style).
>
> The docs I'm talking about are kind of like the Bootstrap docs, where 
> there's inline demos, api docs, usage guidlines, style variations, etc. A 
> lot of this stuff is done, but not yet moved to this repo.
>
> -a
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jonathan Bomgardner <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I thought I saw docs out there....  
>> https://github.com/Behavior-UI/behavior-ui/tree/master/js/Docs
>>
>> Are those the correct ones?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:59:28 PM UTC-7, Nutron wrote:
>>
>>> It's based on the pro version, but the only things that absolutely 
>>> require it are the select elements (a DOM replacement for the native select 
>>> controls) and the charts (and those mostly work w/o flat-ui, they have one 
>>> small dependency that could be mitigated easily).
>>>
>>> What's missing that would make it infinitely easier for you to adopt it 
>>> is the docs themselves. You really aren't going to get far just reading the 
>>> source. I'll try and get something on github before the end of the week if 
>>> I can. If not, we can maybe come up with a creative way for you to view 
>>> them within our system.
>>>
>>> -a
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Jonathan Bomgardner <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm starting the backend in earnest this week. I hope to get moving on 
>>>> the frontend late in the week or early next if possible. I took a look 
>>>> through the Github repo (at least cursory) and it looks like it would have 
>>>> most of what I need with only a few exceptions (I'm actually pretty 
>>>> excited 
>>>> to dive into learning Behavior and all the goodies that come with it). Is 
>>>> most everything needed to get started at least in the repo? Also, what 
>>>> version of the Flat UI is this based on - the free version or the pro?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:19:27 PM UTC-7, Nutron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The JS is all there. It's built on top of Bootstrap and, optionally, 
>>>>> Flat-UI (http://designmodo.github.io/Flat-UI/ 
>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdesignmodo.github.io%2FFlat-UI%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGPuranqv5V5CRuAS403_CDVFwLdA>)
>>>>>  
>>>>> (and HighCharts if you want the charts). If I'm honest, we're still a few 
>>>>> weeks before we have the website up with all the demos and docs, most of 
>>>>> which exist but the application that runs it is currently internal to us. 
>>>>> What's your timeline? I could, in theory, try and get you access to the 
>>>>> internal tools so that you can see the documentation and demos as it 
>>>>> currently stands (basically, it's kind of bound up within our proprietary 
>>>>> application and needs to be pushed out). Maybe you could help us with the 
>>>>> work of pulling it apart...
>>>>>
>>>>> -a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jonathan Bomgardner <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on when the UI stuff might happen? I'm starting a 
>>>>>> project and would love to use this for the UI. If it works out and gets 
>>>>>> open-sourced I would also, most likely, be interested in contributing 
>>>>>> (after I get a good handle on it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jon Bomgardner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, June 23, 2014 12:02:54 PM UTC-7, Nutron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no reason that behavior wouldn't work with custom tags, 
>>>>>>> though it's not designed to work with them as semantic replacements for 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> behavior listing itself. For example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <foo> I'm a foo </foo>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wouldn't translate into Behavior instantiating it as a Foo. Instead 
>>>>>>> you'd have to do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <foo data-behavior="Foo"> I'm a foo </foo>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is ideal for two big reasons:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - You might have more than one behavior for the tag (both 
>>>>>>>    Form.Request and Form.Validator, for example)
>>>>>>>    - You only have to do one DOM search to find them all 
>>>>>>>    ($$('[data-behavior]')). This search is far more scalable than 
>>>>>>> having to do 
>>>>>>>    a DOM search for each behavior you write. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On an unrelated note, I've been working towards open-sourcing our UI 
>>>>>>> kit here where I work. There's still a lot of work to do (we have a 
>>>>>>> bunch 
>>>>>>> of demos we hope to get online as well as docs and css/less files that 
>>>>>>> accompany them), but you can at least see what's in it now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/Behavior-UI/behavior-ui/tree/master/js/Source
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Eric Patrick <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone experimented with porting Aaron's behaviors 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.clientcide.com/code-releases/bootstrap-3-0-clientcide-3-1-0-behavior-1-3-0-and-more-behaviors-1-0-8/>
>>>>>>>>  to 
>>>>>>>> HTML5 custom tags 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webcomponents/customelements/>
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our toolset targets business 'power users' who are not js experts, 
>>>>>>>> but do learn basic markup.  I've found behaviors are a very powerful 
>>>>>>>> tool 
>>>>>>>> in enabling this user base to achieve things that normally require 
>>>>>>>> 'traditional' coding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, we also have client shops with JS expertise (usually 
>>>>>>>> jQuery), and I am weighing porting our custom behaviors to HTML5 
>>>>>>>> custom 
>>>>>>>> tags, and allowing JS devs to create new custom tags following a 
>>>>>>>> similar 
>>>>>>>> structure using jQuery, instead of requiring MooTools.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I continue to love Moo; just trying to leverage existing knowledge 
>>>>>>>> bases out there.  I'm in an enviable position of generally dictating 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> browser to our user base, so I get to ensure an evergreen 
>>>>>>>> <http://tomdale.net/2013/05/evergreen-browsers/> browser.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, just wondering if anyone on this list has weighed pros and 
>>>>>>>> cons of such an approach, of if you might be interested if I just put 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> in GIT for joint development?
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