On 03/21/2013 08:39 AM, Justin Karneges wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:59:23 PM Justin Karneges wrote:
> 
>> So I'm considering two options:
> 
>> 1) Create a "mongrel2" package with a disabled default config that does
> 
>> not autorun. This would be similar to how the haproxy debian package
> works.
> 
>> You install the package, but it doesn't actually run unless you tweak some
> 
>> files. This way if mongrel2 gets pulled in as a dependency, no other
> 
>> webservers break.
> 
>> 2) Create two packages: "mongrel2-base" containing files/binaries only,
> 
>> and "mongrel2" that depends on mongrel2-base and sets up a default config
> 
>> with autorun. Apps like mine would depend on mongrel2-base only, ensuring
> 
>> that if mongrel2-base gets dragged in as a dependency then nothing will
> 
>> break. Users that want to use mongrel2 as their primary webserver can
> 
>> install the mongrel2 package explicitly, resulting in an out-of-the-box
> 
>> working instance similar to apache.
> 
>>
> 
>> I'm partial to the second option since it seems to be the best of all
> 
>> worlds, but I'm not familiar enough with packaging to know if there's a
> 
>> precedent of this sort of thing.

Hello Justin,
I'm by no means an expert on packaging either, but somewhere there
should be some Debian guidelines.

There's a few things I remember, but I might be wrong.

- afaik the policy is to get daemons running with a "sensible" default
config when they are installed. Especially admins hate this, as for
example an unconfigured mailserver is basically useless ;) It's even
worse for nosql stores that are only used in a cluster...
- I don't remember any real conflicts when installing both nginx and
apache2 (which I frequently do) - it's just that the second one can't
start - obviously, as port 80 is already used. But I don't recall having
any problem during installation - so I'd say: port 80 is good enough.
- this leads me to say 1) is a bad idea in Debian, although it's
sensible overall

Oh, and have you seen these?
http://mostlyobvio.us/2012/08/packaging-for-dummies-1/
http://librelist.com/browser//mongrel2/2010/9/23/ubuntu-ppa-for-mongrel2/#fd981cc2f12f668ada8a82a8fe03d440

Cheers,
Florian

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