I am trying to do a clean install of 12.04 of kubuntu and I'm having nothing but problems, but i have a fix which in a way i cannot fix cuz i cannot boot onto the ui or even the command line to make a change in grub to where i can get something to show up on the screen.
I am using lvm 40gb partition for my install on a 2tb hdd the issue stems from my graphics card. In grub i need nomodeset but i can't even get grub to load the menu to where i can change it there it randomly restarts. During installation i tried the malta mirror and for some reason it wasn't able to retrieve the necessary files needed to do the net installation, yet using the italian mirror works just fine :-/ At this point in time I'm at my wits end. Any ideas how to fix my grub issue would be greatly appreciated. I tried using the live cd to mount the lvm partition but there is no grub.conf file for me to modify to get into the DE to make the change in /etc/default/grub. the purpose of using grub.conf is to bypass needing to use update grub i need that just long enough to reboot and get to the desktop then i can make the change the right way. FRUSTRATED USER Jonathan On 20 May 2012, at 19:41, [email protected] wrote: > Send MLUG-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MLUG-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ubuntu mirror offline (Jonathan Aquilina) (Jonathan Aquilina) > 2. ubuntu mirror offline confirmed (Jonathan Aquilina) > 3. Re: ubuntu mirror offline confirmed (Ramon Casha) > 4. Re: ubuntu mirror offline confirmed (Keith Vassallo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 16:01:39 +0200 > From: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LINUX.ORG.MT] ubuntu mirror offline (Jonathan Aquilina) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > please disregard turns out that my network was at fault > > On 20 May 2012, at 15:59, [email protected] wrote: > >> Send MLUG-list mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of MLUG-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Meeting with MPs (Effie Ciantar @ GMail) >> 2. Re: Meeting with MPs (Keith Vassallo) >> 3. ubuntu mirror offline (Jonathan Aquilina) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:03:07 +0200 >> From: "Effie Ciantar @ GMail" <[email protected]> >> To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Meeting with MPs >> Message-ID: <1337511787.22052.33.camel@My-NetBook> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Dear all, >> >> I do not know what was discussed in last Saturday's meeting about this >> issue, but I would like to contribute my penny's worth for the position >> paper. Here goes ... >> >> Before approaching politicians with what we want to tell them about Open >> Source, we need to put ourselves in their shoes and ask ourselves what >> they would want to know about this issue. >> >> All change carries risk, and politicians (like any businessmen worth >> their salt) will want to maximise the positive impact of any change (the >> louder the bang, the better) and minimise the risks. If we do not >> manage this, than our endeavour is a non-starter. >> >> If, however, we do manage to convince them, we will then need to point >> out clearly what action needs to be taken for these gains to >> materialise. >> >> Therefore, I believe we should focus on these three issues: >> >> 1 ? The Bang: >> >> For the politician, in this case it will probably be mainly the >> financial savings. This will need to significantly offset all costs that >> will be incurred as a result of any changeover (costs of installation, >> retraining, recreation of certain functions like macros, etc). Can we >> come up with some indicative figures, eg. from some other countries or >> from the business sector? >> >> 2 ? The Risks: >> >> Although we could talk about the stability, security, transparency etc >> of Open Software, perhaps the easiest way to convince them is to give >> them examples from other nations, departments (e.g. Department of >> Defence of a particular country), large multinational companies and >> large national companies who have adopted Open Source successfully. The >> argument would be that if there are any grave risks involved, these >> entities would not have even dreamed of adopting Open Source, and the >> fact that they have been successful means that we could be as well. We >> could also mention the large number of servers that run on Open Source >> Software (again, figures would help). >> >> Technical comparisons between Open Source and Propriety Software, or the >> philosophical virtues of Open Source is unlikely to ignite politicians' >> imagination. >> >> The rapid development cycles (e.g. twice a year for Ubuntu vs only once >> every so many years for Windows) could also be of some concern, although >> one could go for Long Term Support versions. >> >> Another risk they might be concerned about (if they are savvy enough) >> could be what might be considered to the the lack of financial incentive >> for long-term commitment for such software to be still around in 5, 10 >> or even 20 years' time as compared to the great financial incentive >> there is for large companies to survive. I do not have an answer to >> this problem but some of you out there may. >> >> These less obvious risks do not necessarily have to be brought up by us >> (we do not want to alarm the politicians unnecessarily), but we must be >> prepared with answers to such questions in case they come up. >> >> Also, to minimise risks in general, we could suggest starting with a >> pilot study by adopting a single software product in a single department >> that uses non-specialised (generic) software (e.g. Libreoffice in the >> Ministry of Justice) rather than for Open Source Operating Systems and >> Software for the Inland Revenue Department or, worse still, for all >> government hardware from the MITA servers down to the last secretary's >> pc. >> >> We must also acknowledge that in some areas, there is no substitute for >> Windows e.g. a medical laboratory machine that comes with software >> written for Windows only. >> >> 3 ? The Action: >> >> Finally, we need to point out to politicians that the biggest stumbling >> block for this change to take place is the Tendering Process, which has >> to change to allow Open Software to 'compete' with propriety software. >> With all the conviction in the world, nothing will happen unless such >> practices change. >> >> Effie >> >> >> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 06:03 +0200, Daniel wrote: >> >>> we can put it on the agenda for next Saturday's meeting...... >>> >>> >>>> Well, if there's a time when politicians are willing to listen, it's >>>> now. After the election they'll feel safe with 5 years ahead of >>>> them. If we can get statements of support we can use them later, >>>> reminding them of their support for OSS. Besides, there are several >>>> grassroots movements at the moment like the one against ACTA. I'm >>>> sure most politicians would want to be on the right side of any such >>>> movement. >>>> >>>> I think we should contact all parties to arrange a meeting. We'd >>>> need to have some concrete proposals first - maybe a position paper. >>>> This could mention things such as OSS in education, adopting open >>>> standards for government services (especially if we can identify any >>>> services which currently do not), etc. >>>> >>>> Ramon Casha >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 May 2012 19:51, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Thanks Ramon. I agree 100%. Just a question: why we Maltese >>>> are most of the time passive, being a Maltese gemgem in >>>> small groups, and never trying to change at least some small >>>> things ? We cannot change MPs overnight (no illusion), but >>>> if we never try then we lost the battle already. I prefer to >>>> die on the battlefield, trying at least, rather then being >>>> at home repeating the same negative attitude..........maybe >>>> that's why many countries did protest on the first of May >>>> (about working conditions) and Malta was the only nation >>>> which did not protest!!! >>>> >>>> It's up to us to make our voice meaningful and loud enough >>>> to be heard by the local media. We can start as well talking >>>> to our friends who work on TV, radio or newspapers....... >>>> >>>> One final note: when I was a child I expected my parents to >>>> do all the dirty work. As an adult I don't expect anybody to >>>> do my work. especially working hard for the principles I >>>> believe in. And I don't count the value of my principles by >>>> the amout of response I get. If nobody hears me, then after >>>> a self evaluation, I keep trying on and on. My favourite >>>> writer wrote: I was born a fighter and not a loser! >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> If we do and say nothing at all, we will be giving them >>>>> the message that we don't really care about these things. >>>>> If they've got people like Microsoft and others lobbying >>>>> to get their closed-source solutions into government and >>>>> nobody saying otherwise, they will go with what Microsoft >>>>> wants. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 May 2012 09:12, iain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> They will just tell you what they think you want >>>>> to hear. Unless >>>>> something is done beforehand, why should you >>>>> believe *anything* they >>>>> tell you they'll do after the elections? >>>>> >>>>> On 12/05/12 19:13, Daniel wrote: >>>>>> How about organising a meeting with both parties >>>>> in view of the >>>>>> forthcoming elections regarding their policies >>>>> of open source? >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLUG-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:46:25 +0200 >> From: Keith Vassallo <[email protected]> >> To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Meeting with MPs >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Hi Effie, >> >> Thank you very much for your insight. I've added some comments below. >> >> On 20 May 2012, at 13:03, Effie Ciantar @ GMail wrote: >> >>> Before approaching politicians with what we want to tell them about Open >>> Source, we need to put ourselves in their shoes and ask ourselves what >>> they would want to know about this issue. >> >> Amen! >> >>> Can we >>> come up with some indicative figures, eg. from some other countries or >>> from the business sector? >> >> Several papers have been published by local/national governments on their >> transition to open-source, we should definitely check them out. >> >>> Technical comparisons between Open Source and Propriety Software, or the >>> philosophical virtues of Open Source is unlikely to ignite politicians' >>> imagination. >> >> Amen! >> >>> >>> The rapid development cycles (e.g. twice a year for Ubuntu vs only once >>> every so many years for Windows) could also be of some concern, although >>> one could go for Long Term Support versions. >> >> Exactly - a government would definitely go for an LTS. Indeed, I don't even >> think they'd go for Ubuntu at all. I see them more as RHEL or CentOS users. >> >>> Another risk they might be concerned about (if they are savvy enough) >>> could be what might be considered to the the lack of financial incentive >>> for long-term commitment for such software to be still around in 5, 10 >>> or even 20 years' time as compared to the great financial incentive >>> there is for large companies to survive. >> >> This is again why I think the government would opt for an enterprise >> distribution should this ever happen. >> >>> Also, to minimise risks in general, we could suggest starting with a >>> pilot study by adopting a single software product in a single department >>> that uses non-specialised (generic) software (e.g. Libreoffice in the >>> Ministry of Justice) >> >> Yes. Technically, quite a few schools and government departments already use >> open-source software, especially utilities. This would be a more natural >> transition. >> >>> 3 ? The Action: >>> >>> Finally, we need to point out to politicians that the biggest stumbling >>> block for this change to take place is the Tendering Process, which has >>> to change to allow Open Software to 'compete' with propriety software. >>> With all the conviction in the world, nothing will happen unless such >>> practices change. >> >> A local or international company would have to place the tender. Many times >> open-source alternatives are not considered just because there is no >> representation and hence no tender submitted. Natural choices coming to mind >> would be RedHat representatives in Malta (Philip Toledo Ltd., ICT Solutions >> Malta). >> >> Also remember that the government, starting this Summer, shall be >> transitioning all Windows XP computers to Windows 7. So we can't really push >> an OS change in the middle of another OS change. Going for some open-source >> software to go with the transition, however, is much more viable. >> >> K >> >> >>> >>> Effie >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 06:03 +0200, Daniel wrote: >>> >>>> we can put it on the agenda for next Saturday's meeting...... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, if there's a time when politicians are willing to listen, it's >>>>> now. After the election they'll feel safe with 5 years ahead of >>>>> them. If we can get statements of support we can use them later, >>>>> reminding them of their support for OSS. Besides, there are several >>>>> grassroots movements at the moment like the one against ACTA. I'm >>>>> sure most politicians would want to be on the right side of any such >>>>> movement. >>>>> >>>>> I think we should contact all parties to arrange a meeting. We'd >>>>> need to have some concrete proposals first - maybe a position paper. >>>>> This could mention things such as OSS in education, adopting open >>>>> standards for government services (especially if we can identify any >>>>> services which currently do not), etc. >>>>> >>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 14 May 2012 19:51, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Thanks Ramon. I agree 100%. Just a question: why we Maltese >>>>> are most of the time passive, being a Maltese gemgem in >>>>> small groups, and never trying to change at least some small >>>>> things ? We cannot change MPs overnight (no illusion), but >>>>> if we never try then we lost the battle already. I prefer to >>>>> die on the battlefield, trying at least, rather then being >>>>> at home repeating the same negative attitude..........maybe >>>>> that's why many countries did protest on the first of May >>>>> (about working conditions) and Malta was the only nation >>>>> which did not protest!!! >>>>> >>>>> It's up to us to make our voice meaningful and loud enough >>>>> to be heard by the local media. We can start as well talking >>>>> to our friends who work on TV, radio or newspapers....... >>>>> >>>>> One final note: when I was a child I expected my parents to >>>>> do all the dirty work. As an adult I don't expect anybody to >>>>> do my work. especially working hard for the principles I >>>>> believe in. And I don't count the value of my principles by >>>>> the amout of response I get. If nobody hears me, then after >>>>> a self evaluation, I keep trying on and on. My favourite >>>>> writer wrote: I was born a fighter and not a loser! >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If we do and say nothing at all, we will be giving them >>>>>> the message that we don't really care about these things. >>>>>> If they've got people like Microsoft and others lobbying >>>>>> to get their closed-source solutions into government and >>>>>> nobody saying otherwise, they will go with what Microsoft >>>>>> wants. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 May 2012 09:12, iain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> They will just tell you what they think you want >>>>>> to hear. Unless >>>>>> something is done beforehand, why should you >>>>>> believe *anything* they >>>>>> tell you they'll do after the elections? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/05/12 19:13, Daniel wrote: >>>>>>> How about organising a meeting with both parties >>>>>> in view of the >>>>>>> forthcoming elections regarding their policies >>>>>> of open source? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLUG-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: smime.p7s >> Type: application/pkcs7-signature >> Size: 4362 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20120520/4845ed3e/attachment-0001.bin> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:55:38 +0200 >> From: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LINUX.ORG.MT] ubuntu mirror offline >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Is the mirror offline for some reason I am trying to do a net install of >> 12.04 but for some reason its not able to connect to our mirror. >> >> Regards >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> >> End of MLUG-list Digest, Vol 96, Issue 13 >> ***************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 16:29:49 +0200 > From: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LINUX.ORG.MT] ubuntu mirror offline confirmed > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > hey guys I just confirmed that the mirror is offline any ideas as to why? or > if the server is offline? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 19:35:35 +0200 > From: Ramon Casha <[email protected]> > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] ubuntu mirror offline confirmed > Message-ID: > <camogek6um25c6g+34bwzegdlweapf_t089xt-ojkgpi_z+j...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The server is up - both web and ftp. What is the problem? > > Ramon Casha > > > On 20 May 2012 16:29, Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> wrote: > >> hey guys I just confirmed that the mirror is offline any ideas as to why? >> or if the server is offline? >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20120520/fbc67767/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 19:40:20 +0200 > From: Keith Vassallo <[email protected]> > To: Malta Linux User Group - general list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] ubuntu mirror offline confirmed > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Works for me... > > > > On 20 May 2012, at 19:35, Ramon Casha wrote: > >> The server is up - both web and ftp. What is the problem? >> >> Ramon Casha >> >> >> On 20 May 2012 16:29, Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]> wrote: >> hey guys I just confirmed that the mirror is offline any ideas as to why? or >> if the server is offline? >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20120520/7bdda1f5/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Screen Shot 2012-05-20 at 19.39.57.png > Type: image/png > Size: 140453 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://linux.org.mt/pipermail/mlug-list/attachments/20120520/7bdda1f5/attachment.png> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > End of MLUG-list Digest, Vol 96, Issue 14 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ MLUG-list mailing list [email protected] http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list
