my t61 was a dream to work with, currently running a temp t500 until i get
my new t520 and they all work perfectly with linux


thinkpad ftw

On 3 April 2012 12:19, Warren Camilleri <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use an lenovo ideapad s 10-2 but wifi is a bitch to setup on some
> distros due to the broadcom bluetooth/wifi hybrid and i have a spare mini
> pci-3 dlot available on this mighty netbook (yeah its a small 10incher that
> pack a punch)
>
> Best regards,
> Warren Camilleri
> Founding Father of OSSMalta
>
> ---
> Sent from my android
> On Apr 3, 2012 10:01 AM, "Keith Vassallo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Guys how about a Thinkpad laptop? They're not the cheapest but they do
>> have great Linux support.
>>
>> I've also tried Linux on one of the cheaper Lenovo laptops and it works
>> great (standby and everything).
>>
>> K
>>
>> On 03 Apr 2012, at 09:53, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti wrote:
>>
>> This is also done as some companies have volume licensing agreements with
>> Microsoft.
>>
>> I like Effie's approach. I hope so too that he is still working there. If
>> so, ask him if we can put something on our website with regards to details
>> on how to get one? I am sure they would be glad with the advertisment. What
>> do you guys think ?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> In part due to the many varieties of Linux that exist, many
>>> manufacturers are offering the option of either no OS, or else some version
>>> of DOS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ramon Casha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 April 2012 09:29, Effie Ciantar @ GMail <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I fully agree with Warren's more extensive list of caveats.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I would like to clarify a couple of things:
>>>>
>>>> The DELL laptop I bought did not come with a pre-installed Linux - it
>>>> had no OS at all.
>>>>
>>>> As for using the live CD, I made it clear to the shop assistant that I
>>>> was going to buy it on the spot, and for cash, if it worked, but would
>>>> not buy it, nor would I buy anything else, if I did not test it or if it
>>>> did not work.
>>>>
>>>> As for the WiFi, I asked the gentleman to log on to their own WiFi
>>>> himself (while I looked away :) and to show me the Google Homepage,
>>>> which he did.
>>>>
>>>> Following that, I immediately made my purchase in cash, so that I made
>>>> it worth his while for that sale and for possible future similar ones.
>>>>
>>>> I hope he still works there!
>>>>
>>>> Effie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 06:31 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>>> > thanks to your feedback.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Good evening Fellow Penguins,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I would like to start off that i agree with Effie on most points,
>>>> > > how ever if your friend has certain peripherals to be connected they
>>>> > > ought to be considered when making the switch.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I admit i am not a 100% linux user now i am more of a 45% user of
>>>> linux,
>>>> > > Linux has come a long way and still has a long road ahead and this
>>>> is what
>>>> > > i take into consideration when recommending linux.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 1. What level of computer knowledge do they have
>>>> > > 2. Have they ever used Linux in the past or are able to adapt to
>>>> "change"
>>>> > > 3. what will s/he will be using i for
>>>> > > 4. Are there any Specific requirements (this may be from software
>>>> to hardware)
>>>> > > 5. will it be connected to a network and able to be given
>>>> support(Daniel you should know about MCA & MITA's intolerance to no control
>>>> on OSS)
>>>> > > 6. what is his estimated Budget and how long those he want it to
>>>> serve him
>>>> > >
>>>> > > these are a few questions that can help in 1. purchasing a new
>>>> system, 2. what OS/Software will be needed and 3. (most important)
>>>> Availability of Support when something mysteriously F***s up
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Also if i am not mistaken Dell Stopped Selling the "ubuntu 10.10 or
>>>> 10.04" laptop as only 20 units where sold locally (got my own contacts),
>>>> and if he is looking for a cost reduced system it is best to by it with out
>>>> an OS saves a minimum of €100 off the price.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Also effie i am surprised that they even let you user "thier" wifi
>>>> let alone run a liveCD...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I also have some traders that import from mainland Europe and are
>>>> able to provide me with discounted laptops with no OS should there be a
>>>> need.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hope i have helped in some small way and not scared him away as
>>>> most people aren't ready for Change let alone committing to it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Peace,
>>>> > > Warren Camilleri
>>>> > >
>>>> > > p.s i found Mint LXDE quite handy for old systems, unity is favered
>>>> by my little brother who i kinda forced into using...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > And i am still looking for a replacement to "Twieqi" in regards to
>>>> gaming and Graphic design :S hence my usage of "Twieqi" as for general
>>>> usage i still consider these distros Ubuntu, OpenSuse, and still need to
>>>> test Mints Gnome as i am a somewhat simple user (mac like user).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > From: "Effie Ciantar @ GMail" <[email protected]>
>>>> > > > To: "Malta Linux User Group - general list" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > > > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 10:45:30 PM
>>>> > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Open source Operating system in a
>>>> laptop
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Dear Daniel,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Last October, I tried to buy a Linux based laptop and had
>>>> > > > considerable
>>>> > > > difficult in finding one without windows pre-installed.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Eventually, I found that DELL (next door to SCAN in Marsa) had one
>>>> > > > which
>>>> > > > they offered with Windows or without an operating system.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > So I took along with me a live Ubuntu distribution so that I could
>>>> > > > check
>>>> > > > that all the hardware was recognised and after I convinced them
>>>> that
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > hard disk would not be touched, they allowed me to boot from it
>>>> and
>>>> > > > it
>>>> > > > was OK (they even allowed me to log on into their WiFi to check
>>>> it!).
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > So I bought this DELL laptop and have had no problems with it.  My
>>>> > > > only
>>>> > > > grudge is that it does not have F keys - instead, the function of
>>>> F
>>>> > > > keys
>>>> > > > is obtained by pressing the function key [Fn] along with the
>>>> top-row
>>>> > > > numeric keys.  Of course, certain short-cuts (like Alt-F4 to
>>>> close a
>>>> > > > window) with is very quick and easy with a single hand, becomes
>>>> > > > fiddly
>>>> > > > as you have to use both hands to press the function key and Alt 4.
>>>> > > > Nevertheless, I have saved a nice sum for not buying windows and
>>>> it
>>>> > > > is
>>>> > > > serving me well.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > But before rushing into buying such a laptop, it is worth
>>>> considering
>>>> > > > what printer he has.  As you know, not all printers support Linux
>>>> > > > equally well.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Also worth considering is what distro to go for - I would suggest
>>>> > > > something easy and attractive like Kubuntu, Mint or Knoppix.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > But most important of all, if he has never used Linux before,
>>>> perhaps
>>>> > > > he
>>>> > > > ought to consider a Windows lap-top and dual booting it into
>>>> Linux.
>>>> > > > That way, he will always have a fall-back position if he finds a
>>>> > > > problem
>>>> > > > until he gets accustomed to Linux.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > That's my penny's worth :)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Effie.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 19:41 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>>> > > > > This evening I was talking to a teacher who is a friend of mine
>>>> and
>>>> > > > > who is interested in buying a new laptop for himself. I told him
>>>> > > > > that
>>>> > > > > he should consider buying an open source one and he seems highly
>>>> > > > > interested even because of the values behind the OS. Would you
>>>> have
>>>> > > > > any suggestions on what best to look for and if possible cheaper
>>>> > > > > prices as well?
>>>> > > > > Daniel
>>>> > > > >
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