* Nick <[email protected]> [2010-11-07 05:16]:
> On 11/05/10 14:29, Joe McDonagh wrote:
> > "If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility 
> > of 0 in my experience.
> > 
> > If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of 
> > this hardware is as stable as a Sun.
> 
> Good to hear your experience with sun HW is better than mine.
> 
> SS20s overheat
> U1's pop power supplies (gone through three in my PERSONAL stock!)
> U5/U10/AXi pop processors (three, in my personal stock)
> U2's have issues with connectors (blow out dust, clean 'em up, can do
> much better).
> That's all my personal systems.  At work, I have evidence that E250s and
> E450s blow power supplies (the bad power supplies make great monitor
> stands), v250 power supplies are expensive to get (and they DON'T make
> good monitor stands), T1-105s can blow main boards, E4500s can blow CPUs
> (and come back up with the bad processor off-line in solaris.
> impressive!).  T2000s light up wrench lights and finding out why is a
> surprisingly difficult.
> (this is all ignoring the CMOS batteries which die and take out the
> system's MAC address).

interesting. i run ~25 t1 105s. for ages. 3 have fan failures. that's
it. and they run fine without replacing that fan even :)
a handful of v100, v120, v210 each. no failures at all.

i think i had one ss20 die ages ago. at a point where that kind of
machine was ancient already. i still have a stack of them somewhere.
prety sure if i'd power them up now the vast majority would be ok
after un-dusting, reseating mem and the like. my u1s are alive (but
off too). the ss5s probably in the same boat as the ss20s. even the
really ancient ipxes are pbly still ok. can't be bothered to check tho.
u5/u10 was crap, for sun standards, and if memory serves i had one out
of 3 fail. u30 alive. e220r, e420r, no failures.
so the only ones that ever failed (fans and disks i expect to fail
sooner or later, so my definition of "machine failed" excludes these
parts) were not from the server line, but workstations. that matches
the majority of your list.

that track record is way ahead of anything else i run and ever ran. i
have to add here that i have extremely low failure rates. apparently a
pretty good hand at picking hardware plus a very friendly environment -
data center, very stable and low temp, high forced airflow, very little
dust.

oh, and that covers only sparc/sparc64 gear. sun's x86 gear was never
even remotely up to that standards, haven't seen a single that
remotely convinced me, the few i worked with... x2100 of both generations
were the trigger to not consider sun for x86 gear, they're misdesigned
shit. recently worked with some x4something at a customer, holy crap,
their management stuff these days is so incredibly bad and not helping
at all, but drastically in the way.

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