On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Kenneth R Westerback
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:15:25PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Holland
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Daniel Malament wrote:
>> >> On 10/22/2009 5:37 AM, William Boshuck wrote:
>> >>>> And here I thought I remembered the new installer being described as
>> easier to use.
>> >>
>> >>> It is.  Were it not so quick it would be positively
>> >>> boring. Just don't set mount points for the partitions
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps I should clarify: IMO, not double-checking with the user about
>> >> what specifically to wipe, especially when it used to, is a step back
in
>> >> 'usability' (in the Jakob Nielsen sense) - or to put it another way,
>> >> user-friendliness.
>> >
>> > I presume you are talking about this question:
>> >
>> >  The next step *DESTROYS* all existing data on these partitions!
>> >  Are you really sure that you're ready to proceed? [no] y
>> >
>> > This question was asked AFTER you had fdisk'd and disklabled your
>> > disk.  By this point, the data had been already potentially destroyed,
>> > I thought this question quite silly, in that it implies data has been
>> > safe up to this point...no, it hasn't, you have potentially been
>> > destroying things all over the place.
>>
>> Hey Nick,
>>
>> I don't wish to contradict you here, but ... I usually do installs and
>> never upgrades. So what I do is keep /home out of the mount points in
>> the disklabel stage, go through install, then re-add /home. I recall a
>> while back, I did get to this stage and agreed to proceed and as the
>> partitions were being newfs-ed I realized I had forgotten and included
>> /home in the list. I ^C out before the /home slice was reached. I
>> restarted the install, this time doing it "correctly", and my data in
>> /home was OK!
>>
>> Might have been a fluke ... but, it is what it is.
>>
>> --patrick
>>
>
> Nick's point is that by the time the question came the disk setup
> could have been completely changed - new MBR partitions, different
> disklael layout of partitions.  So the script really had no idea
> when it asked that question if your data was already gone. Thus it
> was misleading, and thus it was eliminated in the great 4.6 rewrite.

I don't want to belabor this, however, the actual data on the disk
(maybe with the exception of MBR) is still safe until newfs-ed.
Therefore, even if the disklabel was changed, if the user had a copy
of her pre-install dislabel she could revert/recover at this stage. I
know there has been suggestions many times over (by Nick Holland I
believe) that folks should save their disklabels for similar recovery
situations; in fact fairly recently someone reported such recovery on
misc@ IIRC.

Either way, point made. People who are used to keeping partitions from
install to install, should choose the "Custom layout" option as you
pointed out.

--patrick

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