On Tuesday 15 July 2008, GVG GVG wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, David Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:42:58PM +0200, GVG GVG wrote: > > Use the size of your MTU, which can be found my using ifconfig. > > > > -- > > David Hill > > Thanks for your prompt reply. > > Just out of curiosity what's this 'MTU' stands for? >
MTU stands for Mark T Uemura, otherwise known as mtu@, an OpenBSD developer who has been kind enough to do some fantastic write-ups and interviews on the events and people of the two most recent hackathons. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=search&mode=&thres=&method=and&sort=time&query=mtu Now, all kidding aside, please look at the length of your question above and compare it to the following URL: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=MTU Yep, the URL is shorter. Answering your own question would have been less typing, a whole lot faster, and far more complete than the simple expansion of an abbreviation given to you in replies. The half dozen idiots posting replies with the correct answer to your easily answered question have done a disservice to both you and everyone else subscribed to this list. Mindlessly blurting out an easily found answer is tantamount to bragging and makes the people doing it look stupid since it shows they failed to think things through. They robbed you of a chance to learn something on your own, they cluttered the mail boxes of thousands of people, and worst of all, they encouraged all the countless other people like you to be lazy. There's nothing wrong with not knowing things, but if you're unwilling to at least try learning and try solving your own problems *before* asking for help, then you obviously don't respect the time people commit to writing software and helping others on these lists. The correct order of operation is Think, Search, Study, and Try. When you've repeated the first four steps a few times and you're still at a loss for an answer, only then take the fifth step of Asking. It's the tough road to take rather than the easy way out, but in the end, you'll be stronger and better for it. In a similar vein, you might find the following thread enlightening: http://marc.info/?t=121434202300006&r=1&w=2 Particularly: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=121434335503622&w=2 Yep, this crap happens all the time. It's not just new people showing up on the lists and not knowing the basics, but it's also long time users like Paul and Josh forgetting the end result of being overly helpful. Heck, if you search the list archives, you'll probably find places where *I* have made the exact same mistakes. I may seem like a complete ass for pointing the obvious, but none the less, all of the above are things you, and others, really need to learn and remember. Kind Regards jcr
