On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:52:56AM -0700, L wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:17:46PM -0600, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
>>> For GPL-licensed software I recommend the term "covenant(ed)
>>> software".  So-called "free software", as rms uses the term, is
>>> totally dependent on the GPL, which leverages the State's monopoly on
>>> violence to compel   modifiers of the software to offer their mods to
>>> the public.
>> Free Software as Richard Stallman uses the term is BSD.
>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>> The GPL is merely a "covenant" license which closes the (mathmatical
>> definition alike) ring of Free Software so all operations don't create a
>> derivate outside that definition.
>
> Ring of Stallmanism, not free software.

No, the ring of Free Software, as defined by the Free Software
Foundation, which is exactly the same kind of Free used in the OpenBSD
context.

You may think otherwise, but you should better give evidence instead of
insult, if you want to be taken seriously.

> Some definitions of free:
>   Not under control of another, having liberty, independent
>   Able to move in any direction, loose.
>   etc.
> Pulled right from a dictionary

'free' != 'free software', but anyway:
  1) software is always under the control of another by law
  2) software isn't alive, it's not software who needs the freedom, it's
     people
  3) with zangband people are under the control of the zangband authors
  4) with zangband, people haven't the independence to move in the direction
     of profit

etc...

> I exercise my right to free speech, to be able to say that free software 
> shall not be called free software unless it follows the dictionary term. 

The FSF definiton does follow your "dictionary" definition. As I said,
it is *the* *same* as BSD's.

> What stops me from starting my OWN PERSONAL freedom definition on my site 
> and my own PERSONAL 'freedom ring' that only allows people to join who have 
> followed MY conditions? That is not freedom, that is Larsism or 505ism 
> according to my own PERSONAL opinions.

You don't seem to understand that the GPL is a ring closure license for
GPL'ed Free Software, not for all Free Software. The day you stop and
cultivate yourself you'll avoid braindead statements like the one below:

> YOU HAVE ALL BEEN BRAINWASHED.
> THOSE CUTE ANIMALS ON THE GNU WEBSITE WERE A PROPAGANDA TACTIC.

Cheers.
Rui

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