On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Marc Balmer wrote:

> Henning Brauer wrote:
> > * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 15:29]:
> >> Henning Brauer wrote:
> >>> * Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:49]:
> >>>> Frank Habicht wrote:
> >>>>> Hi misc,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [i guess misc is better than ports for that..]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I ran the patched httpdv6 with the stock httpd.conf
> >>>>> -> it was only bound to v6
> >>>>>
> >>>>> README.v6 suggests _for_Vhost_operation_ one needs
> >>>>> Listen :: 80
> >>>>> Listen 0.0.0.0 80
> >>>>>
> >>>>> my test suggests even without vhosts these are needed to run both v4 and
> >>>> v6.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course you need this.
> >>> wait.
> >>> if an existing OpenBSD installation with existing httpd.conf gets 
> >>> upgraded 
> >>> (without changing the httpd.conf) and after that the httpd suddenly only 
> >>> listens on v6 and not v4 any more, then the patch is wrong.
> >> here, a change to the software requires a change in the configuration
> >> as well.
> >>
> >> In this case it is well documented and the change is trivial.
> >>
> >> and we have enough ways to teach users about it.
> > 
> > bullshit.
> > the diff is plain wrong and willfuck users.
> > and the fix is so obvious and reasonably easy...
> > (no af specified = both, OF COURSE)
> 
> This diff assumes IPv6 as default if no AF is specified, this is what
> is expected from IPv6 software and what the original authors intended,

This is the problem. You are trying to switch a daemon to be IPv6 centric
when the majority of our users doesn't use IPv6. I can understand that 
KAME has that agenda but I dont think OpenBSD should. 

It is like we should have disabled SSHv1 the same moment we implemented
SSHv2 in OpenSSH.

> The change is so trivial that this will not fuck any users.

Get real...

I have no problems with it listening on both. But one might change the
example config file to not use the * syntax. 

-moj

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