"There's no disk partition to hold suspend info, and removing power when in the suspend state kills the suspend (i.e. when power is restored I have to do a cold reboot with full fsck etc). So, I conclude I must be doing suspend-to-RAM."
yes, this is another issue... I DO have such a partition, I made it on purpose for that aim, I did exactly what you can read in http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html "You can use this feature with OpenBSD. Generate the partition for hibernation using the /usr/ports/sysutils/tphdisk utility from the ports collection. The hibernation partition requires to be a MS-DOS partition at the beginning of the harddisk. This partition can be of type 16 bit FAT or FAT32 (as such it is possible that a Windows install lives in this partition)." But I don't see any difference between apm -S, apm -z (zzz). There's always energy consumption. Here you are my DMESG in case of (as you can see, the hard drive crashed from last time I tried to suspend from X, now I am suspending from terminal... and also this time I have acpi enabled, but I don't see any difference) OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.70 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 2146398208 (2046MB) avail mem = 2067853312 (1972MB) User Kernel Config UKC> enable acpi 396 acpi0 enabled UKC> quit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 01/20/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version "1RETDIWW (3.14 )" date 01/20/2005 bios0: IBM 23739FU apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82371FB ISA" rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x10000 0xd0000/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe0000/0x10000 cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1700 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82855PE Hub" rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82855PE AGP" rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf" rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "TI PCI4520 CardBus" rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 "TI PCI4520 CardBus" rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP)" rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:0d:60:89:7a:4d ath0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 "Atheros AR5212 (IBM MiniPCI)" rev 0x01: irq 11 ath0: AR5213 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR1W, address 00:05:4e:42:ea:6b cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801DBM IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <SAMSUNG HM121HC> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4242N, 0201> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801DB SMBus" rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801DB AC97" rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 "Intel 82801DB Modem" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker> spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt2 at isa0 port 0x3bc/4: polled aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask effd netmask effd ttymask ffff pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b WARNING: / was not properly unmounted WARNING: R/W mount of /fitx_confg denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck auich0: measured ac97 link rate at 48003 Hz, will use 48000 Hz umass0 at uhub0 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 umass0: Sony Sony DSC, rev 2.00/5.00, addr 2 umass0: using UFI over CBI scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: <Sony, Sony DSC, 5.00> SCSI0 0/direct removable sd0: 469MB, 59 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 960512 sec total sd0 detached scsibus1 detached umass0 detached 2007/12/2, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jonathan Thornburg wrote on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 11:30:41PM +0000: > > > I have a more favorable experience to report, albeit on a T41p: > > Me too using a T41p, so let's compare. See also my other post. > > > With 4.2 (both -release and now -stable), suspend works perfectly. > > [Under 4.1 suspend would hang the system unless I switched to the > > 'vesa' Xorg driver; this was workable, but meant I lost any hardware > > video acceleration.] > > 4.1 not tested, don't remember exact details about 4.2-release, > 4.2-stable not tested. > > > Some details: > > IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T41p, model 2373-221 > > IBM Thinkpad T41p (Type 2373-GKG S/N 99-95BGD 04/12) > > > I have *only) OpenBSD on the disk, with no DOS or IBM "recovery partition" > > (I wiped the latter to give more space for OpenBSD) > > Me too (ooops... i did not even notice any IBM recovery partition > while installing OpenBSD... Seems i wanted to get rid of Windows XP asap :). > > > Suspend works fine via either Fn-F4 or 'zzz', under console or under X. > > X autoconfigures (I do *not* have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf) to 1400x1050 > [...] > > Yes, that's the hardware panel size reported by the BIOS. > > > X restores the screen display fine after a suspend/resume cycle. > > Not so for me. > As i said in my previous posting, it does not even suspend for me. > (unless... see below.) > > Apparently, the xorg.conf file changes nothing. Usually, i have > xorg.conf in use because some idi^H^H^H nice guy in our internal > IT department ordered german keyboards (grrr). But without xorg.conf, > all i said in my previous posting still applies. > > BUT, when i log in to X and run > # apmd -d > in one xterm and > # zzz > in another, the ThinkPad suspends properly > and Fn-F4 resumes properly without any video mode breakage. > > In /var/log/messages, i find: > > apmd: battery status: unknown. external power status: connected. \ > estimated battery life: 0% > apmd: system resumed from APM sleep > apmd: battery status: high. external power status: not connected. \ > estimated battery life: 100% > apmd: system resumed from APM sleep > > So zzz works fine both with AC and battery, Fn-F4 and close/open LCD > work fine for both suspend and resume from X - but only if apmd is > running -, and Fn-F4 and close/open LCD work fine for suspend and resume > from console mode no matter whether apmd is running or not. But neither > Fn-F4 nor close LCD suspend from X without apmd, instead they both > kill the video mode. > > Now i suspect i should start feeling silly... > We are supposed to run apmd if we want to suspend from X, are we not? > Any rocks round here, to crawl under? > > For completeless, let's compare dmesgs: > > > dmesg follows: > > OpenBSD 4.2-stable (GENERIC) #1: Sat Nov 17 10:05:47 GMT 2007 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC > > OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #65: Mon Oct 15 16:36:09 CEST 2007 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC > > > real mem = 535785472 (510MB) > > avail mem = 510443520 (486MB) > > real mem = 1072656384 (1022MB) > avail mem = 1029431296 (981MB) > > > bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/07/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, > > SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) > > bios0: vendor IBM version "1RETC2WW (3.03 )" date 04/07/2004 > > bios0: IBM 2373221 > > bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/13/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, > SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) > bios0: vendor IBM version "1RETDNWW (3.19 )" date 10/13/2005 > bios0: IBM 2373GKG > > > bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x10000 0xd0000/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 > > 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe0000/0x10000 > > bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x10000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe0000/0x10000 > > > wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 57231MB, 117210240 sectors > > wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 53522MB, 109614447 sectors > > > cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-R9012, 1121> SCSI0 > > 5/cdrom removable > > cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, RW/DVD GCC-4242N, 0201> SCSI0 > 5/cdrom removable > > spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 > spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 > spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x55: unknown > > > fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 > > don't have any

