On 2022-07-08, Stuart Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are missing the intermediate certificate on the server.

visually:

imap - presents an intermediate cert, providing a path to the trusted root cert

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Certificate chain
 0 s:/CN=mail.thinkerwim.org
   i:/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3
 1 s:/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3
   i:/C=US/O=Internet Security Research Group/CN=ISRG Root X1
 2 s:/C=US/O=Internet Security Research Group/CN=ISRG Root X1
   i:/O=Digital Signature Trust Co./CN=DST Root CA X3
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smtp - doesn't

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Certificate chain
 0 s:/CN=mail.thinkerwim.org
   i:/C=US/O=Let's Encrypt/CN=R3
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