On 02/08/18 19:28, mazocomp wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:41:20PM -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote:
hello misc,

Hi!

I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list
some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security.

Good, go ahead, all doors are open.

However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers OpenBSD
to be old-school, in a negative sense. He recommends Arch Linux as
superior, because more new. Does the difference boil down to one's
definition of free software, and then compliance with that definition?

It's good to listen opinions and have advices. But remember you have
your own opinion, so make your own choice and say aloud: I CHOOSE TO!!!

Also I don't understand what does it mean more new. If you mean new
features, Linux is chaotic, so if number of features is more important
to you than quality of OS, then Arch Linux is really a good choice.

I have read up on this a lot, and this is a serious question. I have heard
that it is unimportant what *nix you're on after a few years of using one
or the other, in terms of functionality. I am interested in embedded
devices. I think that bends the needle towards Arch, but the security of
OpenBSD is also attractive. What considerations should I take into account?

It is really important what Unix-like OS you're using, first of all it
matters to you. Make your choice depending on what you want technically.

I don't use Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD or any other Unix-like
OS because they don't meet my needs. OpenBSD has everything I can't live
without. I choose security, simplicity and code quality.
Regards,
Charlie

Regards,
Leonid Bobrov

I find all Linux's to be overly complicated. I installed Debian on a desktop for my 7 year old to play minecraft. First off it took forever to download and install.
My piss poor internet connection is to blame for most of that time though.
However, anytime I want to install something else and I go man "new program". Guess what no f-ing man page. I have to install a separate doc package. I'm kind of glad that they automatically start servers and what not, because I'm not sure I could bear to read the systemd manual to figure out how to start them. The other BSD's aren't even close in my opinion. FreeBSD is ok, but for a desktop you don't even start out with a basic X to get going. You have to install it separately. NetBSD is ok, but it seemed like everytime I went to install a package it wouldn't build or the defaults weren't what I needed. It's rare to find an OpenBSD package not be spot on plus there is almost always additional information from the packager I assume in /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readme/. I think the only Linux distro that I don't mind using is Slackware, but I feel it is in need of some cleaning. It's nice that it comes stock with sooooo much, but it's also kind of annoying. I haven't tried DragonFly, but I'm guessing it is probably a lot like FreeBSD.

I say install it on a usb stick and give it a whirl. It does everything I need it to do.

Edgar

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