So I argumented against ex.: RC4/*DES with the

https://jve.linuxwall.info/blog/index.php?post/TLS_Survey

but nothing in reply came in as con.... this looks like a one-sided topic...

I still don't understand why couldn't we put the KNOWN weak ciphers in the
fucking trash.. do you really think servers that are installed nowadays are
still using RC4? WHAT A BRIGHT FUTURE. Cryptographers are shouting LOUDly
that do not use RC4/*DES ciphers, use ONLY PFS!!!



On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Theo de Raadt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, at 07:37 AM, someone wrote:
> >> "interoperable" - you mean there are still softwares that really count
> >> and
> >> still cannot use/support HIGH ciphers? wow. What a world we live in.. :\
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Miod Vallat <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > "Sometimes you have to break things to make it better"
> >> >
> >> > Yes, and getting people to stop using LibreSSL because it suddenly is
> >> > not interoperable with anything would surely help a lot.
> >> >
> >> > Instead, we are trying to get developers to try and use LibreSSL
> >> > provided libtsl, which defaults to sane, strong crypto choices.
> >> >
> >> > Miod
> >>
> >
> >Disable RC4 and non-PFS ciphers in Firefox (there are extensions, eg.
> >SSleuth, that can help with doing this) and see how many sites stop
>
> Indeed.
>
> "thisistheone8888" is someone who throws out uneducated thoughts without
> any practice.  Oh wait, this is misc.  I forgot.

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