On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Andres Perera <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM, J Sisson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Juan Miscaro <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 7 July 2011 15:06, jirib <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Are you kidding? Ubuntu? Where installed daemons are running by default, >>> > where there is no command to disable shitty upstart daemons? >>> >>> Which daemons are those again? >>> >>> apt-get install <some_insecure_daemon> >> >> Oh look, <some_unsecure_daemon> is running before I have a chance to >> configure it and lock it down the way I see fit. B <sarcasm>Good thing we > all >> know those Ubuntu/Debian guys are so damned smart and all...</sarcasm> >> > > why would you install a daemon and not run it? how is it any different > than X listening on localhost by default in obsd?
Just because you install something doesn't mean you want it run by default. fingerd, ftpd, rshd, popa3d, tftpd, ntalkd, ntpd, bind, lpd, sshd, etc. are installed on OpenBSD, but not necessarily enabled by default. When software thinks too much for the operator is when trouble begins. --patrick
