On Wed, Jan 15, 2014, Peter Kümmel wrote:
> On 15.01.2014 10:08, Adrien Nader wrote:
> >> I like the idea to build everything from scratch. Do you know
> >> www.buildroot.org ?
> >> It's Makefile based, with embedded systems as targets, not sure if
> >> win32 would be too exotic.
> >
> > I didn't know of buildroot back when I started. I think that when I
> > started, buildroot was actually fairly young.
> 
> Didn't notice that  your project is also several years old ;)

Takes time to make the tools, to make the architecture, to make the
packages, to reach a state with nice features and stability, ... :) 

> >
> > That said, I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to integrate into
> > buildroot.
> > First, buildroot generates images and from what I'm being told at work,
> > it's not good at all when it comes to packages (it has not been made
> > with that in mind).
> 
> Yes, packaging is completely out-of-scope, makes no sens within buildroot,
> was just an idea ...
> 
> > Then, that would require some changes to buildroot which might not be
> > received so well (add clutter for a platform most don't use) but I'm
> > speculating a bit here.
> > There is also the fact that win-builds inherits from the slackware
> > package scripts which are simple shell scripts and it also reuses the
> > software versions in use there. This has reduced packaging work a _lot_
> > (it is most usually trivial) and helps keep up with security updates.
> >
> > As for building from scratch, it's a fully supported approach in
> > win-builds and actually something I do fairly often. It is described at
> > http://win-builds.org/1.3.0/diy.html .
> > The main additional requirement is that you need a slackware mirror
> > available. As I said, I hope to make the chroot a possibility and not a
> > requirement anymore in the next few days and I actually _need_ that by
> > the end of next week.
> 
> I only had contact with slackware via http://www.slax.org/ (as user only).
> Using win-build maybe helps me to build slax's by my own :)

You might want to look at linux-live which are the scripts which are
used to turn a slackware into a slax (done by the same guy). Basically
they do the best thing I'm aware of for live systems: aufs, squashfs
with lzma and matching block sizes for these. These few things are
enough to make a nice live system. :) 

Regards,
Adrien Nader

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