Hi,

Can't Google Chrome be out of MeeGo distribution? I mean make it available as a 
seperate downloadable on top of MeeGo distribution. So that no special mention 
and projection of it required.

Regards
Sajeev

----- Original message -----
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jeremiah Foster
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > MeeGo is an Open Source Linux distribution.
>
> It might help us to advertise that fact a bit more -- I just glanced
> at the front page of www.meego.com<http://www.meego.com>, and I don't see the 
> words "Open
> Source" or "Free Software" anywhere. The word "Linux" only shows up at
> the very bottom, in a couple of links and trademark notices.
>
> > This means that it
> > provides Open Source software packages conveniently installed for
> > those who download MeeGo or those who buy a computer with MeeGo on it.
>
> Right. But note that MeeGo doesn't prevent vendors who ship MeeGo from
> including proprietary software packages (modulo the terms of the FOSS
> licenses).
>
> > Some of those Open Source software packages have end user license
> > agreements, some don't. The Google Chrome browser is one of those that
> > do.
>
> I believe that the Google Chrome Browser is not "Open Source," at
> least not in whole.
>
> From what Wikipedia says, "Chromium" is the FOSS browser, while Chrome
> (at least in terms of MeeGo) refers to a combination of Chromium +
> proprietary pieces.
>
> > But the Google Chrome browser is just one of literally thousands
> > of applications available on MeeGo and its end user license agreement
> > has no bearing on MeeGo as a whole.
>
> Yes, the browser is just one of thousands of packages, and yes
> (AFAIK), the EULA of the browser has no bearing on MeeGo as a whole.
> But let's take another quick look at the front page of 
> www.meego.com<http://www.meego.com>.
> Here's the text for Meego for Netbooks:
>
> ---
> Download
> MeeGo v1.1 for Netbooks (Google Chrome Browser)
>
> This release requires accepting the Google Chrome end user license
> agreement (EULA).
> ---
>
> In this case, the words "Google Chrome" appear *twice*, while the name
> of the kernel, the UI, or any other subproject used in MeeGo is
> completely absent.
>
> > The important
> > point is that MeeGo is Open Source, so you're free to customize and
> > add and remove whatever you want.
>
> Sure. And if some vendor wants to pull the default browser from the
> MeeGo handset build and put in Google Chrome by default, then I guess
> they can do that. But when they build their images, I don't think
> they're going to call their product "Open Source."
>
> I'm just thinking that MeeGo is a big project with a lot of funding
> and a lot of smart developers and other staff contributing to it. I'm
> concerned that it might send the wrong message to other, smaller,
> less-well-funded FOSS projects if MeeGo calls its product "Open
> Source" or "Free Software," but then ships a proprietary application
> installed by default.
>
> > So don't let someone else's casual interpretation fool you - MeeGo is
> > pure Open Source and not part of Google.
>
> I think we're conflating two separate issues here:
>
> 1) The use of proprietary software in MeeGo.
> 2) The involvement of Google in MeeGo or in software used by MeeGo.
>
> To address point #1, if there's proprietary software in MeeGo, then
> describing MeeGo as "pure Open Source" seems inappropriate. If the
> MeeGo community wants to be "pure Open Source," then I'm sure that the
> Linux Foundation will back that move.
>
> As for point #2, I don't believe that there's any direct involvement
> by Google in MeeGo. MeeGo just uses software authored by Google (some
> FOSS, some proprietary). MeeGo may be using proprietary code written
> and/or packaged by Google, but the choice to use such code was wholly
> that of the MeeGo project.
>
>
> Cheers,
> --R
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