[I posted this to Dave privately too but I think everyone should read it to understand why I objected in the first place to the original post. please read the entire reply below, thanks.]


On 11/30/10 02:57, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,

Auke Kok wrote:
On 11/22/10 23:18, Jarkko Moilanen wrote:
Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app
development.
<snip>

Did you get express permission from the MeeGo community council (Dawn,
Quim, etc?) to post this to this list?

Do people need permission to post here now? Have I broken a rule because
I didn't ask?

Since you clearly state your survey is "Academic", I assume it directly
benefits you as a person, providing you with research data. As such,
this invitation is a direct violation of list policies, and as such not
allowed use of this or any MeeGo mailinglist unless expressly approved.

Can you point to the policy you're referring to, please?

I treated this as an email I wasn't interested in, and deleted it. I'm
sure others on the list did the same thing, or perhaps they clicked on
the link&  decided it wasn't worth their time. You could have done the same.

Was there some particular reason you felt that this needed to be stamped
out in such a forceful manner?

Yes.

I've been involved in several open source projects for over 10 years now, and have time after time seen "academic surveys" come on over without realistically contributing back to that particular community.

I've even been fell for the "may help open source" trap once by participating in a survey that ended up being funded by Microsoft which ended up being used against open source in a rather unsettling way. Needless to say, that was 90 minutes of my life I'd rather have back and not spent on the phone with a professor from Harvard or Yale.

In the end, I don't have a problem with specific surveys that intent to help the community that they're surveying directly, but it's up to the community council members to -screen- the request for a survey first before it is posted. If we don't set a reasonably low bar first, we'll end up with daily surveys on this list, and from there on things will get worse, fast. Once advertisers and recruiters find out we have a lax policy and thousands of readers, we've already lost.

So, can people who want to do a survey please just "ask first" ?

Auke
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