On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 03:50:20PM -0700, Ibrahim Haddad wrote:
> comments inline highlighted in blue.

"blue" doesn't work in text-only email clients, sorry :)

> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Wafaa <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The compliance program is driven by setting the compliance specs
> > (discussed
> > > > on meego-dev):,*http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance
> > >
> > > But that referrs to MeeGo 1.1, what about shipping something that
> > > matches 1.0?  Like what Andrew has up and running?
> > >
> > > And even then, that's just a "draft" proposal, right?  How can you
> > > "certify" to a draft at this point in time?
> >
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> While the formal compliance specs and tests are being constructed -
> trademark usage for MeeGo 1.0 is based on a written statement from the
> submitter to the Linux Foundation stating that the product (device or
> software stack) is built using the MeeGo 1.0 core stack following the spirit
> of the guidelines provided on the wiki
> http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance.

Ok, so the statement is below is ok, right?

"spirit" is a fun thing to discuss, I don't think you want to go
there...

> > > > So basically, if someone/company wants to use the name MeeGo as part of
> > > > their product name, they need to respect:
> > > > 1- trademark guidelines - published at
> > > >
> > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines
> > >
> > > That's fine, trademark law is great, and my original proposal meets
> > > those rules, right?
> > >
> > > > 2- MeeGo compliance guidelines or specs  (ongoing project - status can
> > be
> > > > tracked at: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance)
> > >
> > > As nothing is final, this can not be required at this point in time.  So
> > > my original wording should still be fine, especially as the project is
> > > "based on" and not stating that it is compliant in any way, nor using
> > > any trademarked artwork or branding that you are trying to hold out for
> > > only "compliant" releases.
> > >
> > > Of course, the big joke is that there is no "compliant" releases yet as
> > > there is no spec, so we'll just ignore the shipping MeeGo distros from
> > > different companies at the moment :)
> > >
> > > So finally, does the Linux Foundation have any objection to the use of
> > > the following terminology:
> > >
> > >       Smeegol, an openSUSE release based on the netbook user interface
> > >       that came from the Meego(TM)* project.
> > >
> > >       * Meego is a trademark of the Linux Foundation.
> > >
> > > And if there are objections, how should it be rephrased?
> > >
> > > Remember, you want "respins" like this, don't start squashing them...
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > greg k-h
> >
> > Many thanks Greg for the legalise.  Providing the Linux Foundation has
> > no objections, I would like to use that.
> >
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I will get back to you with a confirmation about the name.

What "name"?  "Smeegol"?  The LF can't say anything about that, sorry,
but it can have an influence on how the wording of the statement.

> > My next question is that of artwork.  Looking at the link provided I
> > don't see anything about artwork usage.  From what I can tell, there is
> > the icon-theme package which refers to the Compliance section for usage,
> > is it the only package containing restricted artwork?  So does that mean
> > I can't use icon-theme, and have to use one of the other themes provided
> > by openSUSE (Tango for instance)?
> >
> > What can I use, and what can I explicitly not use?  If it helps anyone
> > wishing to answer these questions I am more than happy for you to see
> > for yourselves by trying out the Alpha of Smeegol ;-)
> >
> >
> 
> This is the only information I am aware in relation to artwork and style
> guide for MeeGo http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Style_Guide.

Great, as there is no final compliance program, all things are free to
use, right?

thanks,

greg k-h
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