Hi all, Please know that I am working (with Yaron) to update the Page Forms extension to provide a new field tag that will support the overlay of points and shapes annotations over an existing image. We will announce this new capability here when it is available. My hope is to announce it by next week. Wish us luck.
/Rich From: Bryan Hilderbrand [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 12:50 PM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <[email protected]> Cc: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <[email protected]>; Yaron Koren <[email protected]>; semediawiki-user <[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MediaWiki-l] [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension Hi all, I use ImageMap [0] like Krabina suggested to do something similar. In my opinion, ImageMap has some issues that hopefully get resolved like "mystery meat navigation" [1][2] and no Visual Editor support or even on-wiki editing, although there are some ways [3]. In my experience, this has prevented all but the most dedicated users from using ImageMap and forces them to use external tools if they do [4]. I did run across an interesting use of "maps" on a video game website [5] that seems to be just overlaying an animated gif over a map at a coordinate. [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e=> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_map#Creation_and_use<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Image-5Fmap-23Creation-5Fand-5Fuse&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=gYzYibsD1qP1V4_FE2PmXeF5nEThrOH6twAD_-7YQLY&e=> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_meat_navigation<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Mystery-5Fmeat-5Fnavigation&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=LQwoutxIbp0qdLg6kKz2bu-ifqv9Mt42V9BWx7LTcaA&e=> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit#English<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__meta.wikimedia.org_wiki_User-3ADapete_ImageMapEdit-23English&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=NscEwxlPNX2LSuTQwNMYW3JUhxRBVkaTUxTCeEgQj9g&e=> [4] http://maschek.hu/imagemap/imgmap/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__maschek.hu_imagemap_imgmap_&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=5PnnynJVRPyhbSdQuznT1egSrvWUQHYlULUCAG8TUfw&e=> [5] https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Template:Tooltip_Coords<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lotro-2Dwiki.com_index.php_Template-3ATooltip-5FCoords&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=JPwwtA-m2UgM5YA7yUqqebM5VmWPLE3IxhF9Vff0GpA&e=> Regards, Bryan On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 7:10 AM Krabina Bernhard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, yes, I think there should be the possibility in maps to have custom images instead of an actual map where you can display points. I have never used this myself, though. There is another option: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AImageMap&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=T3v2wSo1tK8nJq83QqVHaNy2MORZzXfiFPv2fZH4ul8&e=> cheers, Bernhard ----- Am 8. Jun 2019 um 15:05 schrieb semediawiki-user [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>: > Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as usual. These are times I > wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take on the task > of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For us Enterprise > MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in every enterprise > application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being able to quickly > graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit plan or a Road closure > .. These are Basic enterprise applications. > > I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just to > keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser > extension will come along and try to do it. > > If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts on > How > many hours of effort to implement? > > I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps added > to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned not too > long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the enterprise > world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do great work. > > > > ________________________________ > On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > Hi Rich, > > It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts: > entering > the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is currently > possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the easiest way to > add support for it would be to modify either the "openlayers" or "leaflet" > input types in Page Forms to allow for using an uploaded image as the map - > both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow for such a thing. And for viewing > the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps > extension), while Cargo has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be > modified to allow for displaying query results on an uploaded image. > > It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of > image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic Maps > and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped being > supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because it does > seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never really got usage > before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature back, if enough people > show an interest in it. > > I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image Annotator: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=jq1tKucgGnT3UcHyGs4loiWWoHLeoziCiz5dq9s64-c&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3ASemantic-5FImage-5FAnnotator&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=G9_ckDiL3_82h-sM2b4fJWlZTAo_Yuq6pGF4tYl-mVc&s=egpiK3-6Rd5BIHLcRDv9289t0b1zeob3n51FOs1Rgic&e=> > > It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is rectangles > on > an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking for. Maybe it's > fine, though. > > -Yaron > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via > Semediawiki-user > <semediawiki-<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>forge.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__forge.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw&m=pgRveqS58ucagQqkPx6snGOWbkUP3ir4ZN39OPvr7go&s=Iu2JaIVwj5Zg5G6Q_KU9MWO1GPej-Kl4zBDkbhu0Jz4&e=>> > wrote: > Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor plans and > user maps uploaded as images? > > Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend? > > I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's not > clear > to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps. > > OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get > started > with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I knew upfront > that they had the capability. 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