For my purposes, an extension that could add labeled points and shape 
annotations to a single user supplied image would be ideal. I don't need all 
the power of pan and scan map system that assembles image tiles to scale the 
whole world and beyond. I just need to be able to upload a floor plan of a 
building and mark out the location of an event.

/Rich

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From: Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) 
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Subject: RE: [MediaWiki-l] [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension

Hi Tigerfell,

Are you saying that Multimaps currently has the ability to overlay points and 
shapes on to user supplied images?

I looked at the documentation on this extension and haven't seen anything about 
custom maps. Eager to hear more. Can you elaborate?

/Rich 

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Tigerfell
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MediaWiki-l] [Semediawiki-user] interior maps extension

Hi,

You might want to check out ImageMap [1], if you just use the annotation to 
generate links to more specific room information, like when you have a map 
(uploaded as an image) and then you click on some room in the map and then you 
get to a different wiki page about that room like "There is a HD projector and 
150 chairs...". 
The map extensions you mentioned will display small images with map pieces 
called "tiles" made by externals in your wiki. There is something like a 
"Wikipedia for maps" - OpenStreetMap [2] and you could consider adding your 
data to their publically available database. This would require you to release 
the data under OpenDatabaseLicense publically [3]. If you want to do that, you 
would probably need to transform your data format to match theirs and consult 
the community before importing [4] and finally you would need to produce the 
tiles from their data, because standart display do not show the indoor 
features. Further information is available from the relevant wiki page [5]. 
This is pretty much what Wikimedia did with their custom "Kartographer" [7]. 
Seems like a rather complex way for just showing a floor plan, but that is 
essentially the infrastructure behind "Maps" and "OpenLayers". 

> Is anyone doing this?
I am currently working with "MultiMaps" [6], which is essentially working the 
same way as Yaron already described but without Semantic MW. I am just 
displaying the standard tiles provided by OSM. 

> What do people here recommend?
Sorry, I can not really recommend anything for you, because it depends on the 
following facts How many maps do you have? (huge maps make the OSM approach 
more interesting) What do you exactly expect from "annotations"? (simple links, 
texts on top of the map, geometric shapes?) Can you publish the data under 
ODbL? (see above) How often do you update the maps? (no updates, continuous 
updates, real-time) Cheers, Tigerfell

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap> there is an example as well 
on that page [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org <https://www.openstreetmap.org> 
(personal disclaimer: I am involved in this project) [3] 
https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ 
<https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/> (comparable to CC-BY-SA as far as 
I can judge) [4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines>
[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping>
[6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiMaps 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiMaps>
[7] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer>


From: Yaron Koren: 

> Hi Rich,
>
> It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts:
> entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is 
> currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think 
> the easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the 
> "openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for using 
> an uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently 
> allow for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki 
> has a "leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo 
> has an "openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow 
> for displaying query results on an uploaded image.
>
> It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing 
> of image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called 
> Semantic Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that 
> just stopped being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which 
> is too bad, because it does seem useful for a lot of different 
> applications. But it never really got usage before. Maybe now is a 
> good time to bring this feature back, if enough people show an interest in it.
>
> I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image
> Annotator:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator
>
> It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is 
> rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're 
> looking for. Maybe it's fine, though.
>
> -Yaron
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via 
> Semediawiki-user <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Happy Friday - What extension is best for annotating interior floor 
>> plans and user maps uploaded as images?
>>
>> Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
>>
>> I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but 
>> it's not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
>>
>> OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to 
>> get started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn 
>> it if I knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me 
>> what they're doing?
>>
>> /Rich
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps
>> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayers
>> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo
>>
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