I would love to explore how WikiApiary [1] could help with this. I've started to work on pulling in new user logs from remote wikis. I would be happy to brainstorm in a group on how we could move beyond just IP lists to something more sophisticated.
One thought I have had is having WikiApiary use a bot account on remote wikis that wish to participate to fight spammers, revert changes, ban them, etc. [1] http://wikiapiary.com/ -- Jamie Thingelstad [email protected] mobile: 612-810-3699 On May 24, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Arcane 21 <[email protected]> wrote: > That sounds like a good idea, John. > > Also, to elaborate on my early proposed idea for this master spam IP list, > I'm a fan of having an invitation only wiki website where vetted users can > submit known spammer IPs and IP ranges to a community IP list that can be > imported into any MediaWiki wiki. > > I'm not sure how this proposed wiki would be structured (i.e. - whether it > would be a regular wiki, using Semantic MediaWiki, etc.), but I would be > interested in a wiki dedicated to fighting wiki spam where vetted users can > create IP blacklists for spammers, swap information on known spammers and > ways to combat them, and in the interests of security, it may be necessary to > restrict page viewing to confirmed members only. > > Past that, I don't have too many more ideas I can submit for this > brainstorming session, but some form of master anti-spammer IP list in some > usable form sounds like a great idea in any event. > >> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 17:48:02 -0400 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Wiki spam. Stronger fightback. >> >> One thing that might work (wouldnt be 100%) would be a method for >> identifying IP ranges of know abuse where legit collateral is minimal and >> keeping a database of these and auto-blocking them. >> >> These IPs are typically those of: >> * known web-hosting services >> * Proxy Services >> * data-center providers >> * similar cases where risk of legit end user usage is minimal. >> >> I know working with anti-spam efforts that there are several know ISP's >> that 99% of their traffic is spam. If something like this is implemented it >> could reduce spam by as much as 80% or more. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Al Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> More brainstorming ideas about this... >>> >>> A centralized DB would require a site requiring heavy use since it would >>> be hit for each edit submission from every participating site. An >>> alternative would be a subscriber model where the global list (or updates) >>> is downloaded periodically by subscribers. >>> >>> How long to block an IP? I'm not an expert in this area, but what if the >>> IP is blocked for an extended period of time, such as ONE YEAR. If that IP >>> ends up being reissued to a legitimate ISP customer and he gets blocked, >>> that will alert that user that his ISP is either participating in spamming >>> or is tolerating spammers user of their IPs which is affecting regular >>> customers. This may sound harsh, but this could force ISPs to address the >>> problem with their spammer customers. And, there is still a workaround for >>> the legit user who can usually just reboot their modem to get a new IP >>> address. >>> >>> Just thinking out load... >>> al >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Al Johnson <[email protected]> >>> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list < >>> [email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] Wiki spam. Stronger fightback. >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe mediawiki sites can unite to keep a global list of these IP's and >>> block them as soon as they are submitted. Each mediawiki site can >>> auto-submit a spammer IP as soon as it's discovered to the global list. >>> What are the problems with this idea? >>> >>> Al >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >> _______________________________________________ >> MediaWiki-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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