Dave Rolsky <[email protected]> writes:
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
>> i graduated from raw mod-perl2 and 'use CGI' to mason last year, and am
>> loving it so far. my gripe with the MVC approach is that it requires
>> more discipline than i have and more foreknowledge than i ever have
>> about exactly what i'm building and when i'll be done.
>
> I don't really understand this sentiment. MVC code is still code, and code
> is quite malleable.
>
> The point of MVC is not to impose some big design up front methodology, it
> simply lets you organize your code in a cleaner way as you go.
i should qualify what i said to cover "little design up front" and not just
what you said ("big design up front"). in MVC when you open an editor onto
an empty/new source file you have to know whether this bit of source will
access data or display data. i often do not have that information at that
point in time -- i'm thinking in terms of URI's and i sometimes change what
i'm going to display based on the results of trying to update information.
in other words there's a hairball where my brain is supposed to be, and i'm
just not good enough at web programming to benefit from a cleaner approach.
not yet, that is. i can already tell that MVC is my future, and i'm
fantastically happy that there is an MVC framework that doesn't make me
learn ruby or python or PHP. i promise to come along and join the 21st
century as soon as i'm able. i'm already offering strong support to the
programmers around me for modernizing their approaches, but i sometimes
have to tell them, "do as i say, not as i do."
--
Paul Vixie
KI6YSY
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