I'm seeing a similar problem with a start sometime in the last few weeks; I don't use tags, but messages I delete in MailMate on my desktop are often still in the inbox in Mail on my iOS devices and in the Gmail web interface.
The problem first started happening a month or two ago when I set up MailMate on a new laptop. MailMate dutifully began downloading alllllll my mail to its new installation, which was so much traffic (I guess) that Gmail throttled the account; while throttled, deletions I did on that laptop (and moves of messages from the inbox to folders) weren't correctly carried out in the cloud or echoed to other MailMate installations. MailMate on that laptop has long since finished synching, and everything seemed fine for a while, but now MailMate deletions on my desktop often have the same problem. I assumed that Gmail was throttling me again, for some unknown reason, although I didn't ever catch the account actually showing "throttled" -- until earlier today, when the "throttled" label did appear briefly on my desktop MailMate installation. Zvi, any chance your account is also being throttled? If that's not the cause -- and again, I didn't actually see my account marked "throttled" for most of the time that deletions have failed to work, but I might have missed it -- I too would love to know what it might be! On 26 Mar 2026, at 15:28, Zvi Biener wrote: > Hi All, > I wonder if anyone has run into the following behavior, or can think of why > it is happening. > > Basically, it seems like MM is not moving Gmail inbox messages to the trash, > and not changing their read status. I know that the MM/Gmail interaction is > tweaked insofar as tags are concerned, but my setup has worked for years, but > something changed in February. > > The flow is this: a message comes into the Inbox. It is matches certain > criteria, it is deleted (using the “Delete”) action in the rules, and then a > tag is added to it; say, “Marketing”. I am *not* subscribed to the > “Marketing” folder in my gmail account from the MM side, since I want the > tags to show *as tags* (for reason irrelevant here). The message remain > unread, and I see it in a MM smart mailbox defined by the “Marketing” tag. > (I’m not sure why it is deleted first and then tagged, as opposed to tagged > and deleted; I set this up ages ago and remember having a reason, but I don’t > remember what). > > This all looks perfectly fine from the MM side — the message’s source mailbox > shows as Gmail/Trash and it is tagged properly. But the message is not > actually moved to the Trash folder in Gmail, and, even after it is read in > MM, remains as unread in Gmail. If I flag it, it does not become flagged in > Gmail. However, if I flag it in Gmail, it becomes flagged in MM; but if I > then unflag it, it does not unflag in Gmail. > > I don’t think this is related to an update in MM, since the timestamp on my > MM app is from October, and the issue seems to have started in February. But > I’m using the 6290 version. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Zvi > _______________________________________________ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Shoshanna Green (she/her) [email protected] _______________________________________________ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
