Joe: I am an IT Specialist (29 years) and new to Mailman as you can see by my posts here lately,
I run many things under cPanel via a large hosting provider but chose to run Mailman here on my 2 local Linux Servers (Ubuntu) - I'm not sure why he feels so strongly, if the provider had a good support structure and prices (I'm paying $15/month for unlimited space/bandwidth - email me privately for the provider) plus I run my own 2 local servers here with mailman on them for several charitable/non-profit groups. As to an IT Specialist needing to hit the lottery for his own dedicated server - um...they don't cost that much to build both of these here are probably about $1K each or less with RAID Disks, redundant power supplies etc. Heck, if you just need to host a few lists give me a yell and we can talk. George -----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+gkasica=netwrx1....@python.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:51 PM To: Brian Carpenter Cc: 'mailman-users@python.org Users' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service. Hi, Brian. Thanks for your reply. I will be calling you soon. I will not disclose the name or e-mail of the IT specialist but his private message to me expressed his concern over the use of cPanel as a tool for the management of Mailman. Here is an excerpt from the e-mail I received: Joe, unless you have COMPLETE "List Control", DON'T do it ! ! ! If you think you HATE the "baby sitting" of current set-up, you don't know/fully understand the full meaning of HATE ! ! ! For over a decade I have prayed to "Hit the Lottery" as very FIRST thing I would do is pay for Dedicated Server so I could have FULL control without the "Baby Sitting" of cPanel ! ! ! Since I am not an IT specialist I have to ask myself, why would he feel so strongly about this ? What problems should I expect to encounter ? Thank you, Joseph. On February 18, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Brian Carpenter <br...@emwd.com> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- >> bounces+brian=emwd....@python.org] On Behalf Of Joe >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:29 PM >> To: mailman-users@python.org Users >> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service. >> >> Hello, everyone. >> >> In my attempt to find a Mailman hosting service I have received a >> message from one IT specialist advising me to avoid hosting services >> that utilize > a >> cPanel. According to this specialist this is a bad arrangement and >> one > that >> doesn't provide me full control of my lists. Since I am not an IT > specialist I >> don't know what a cPanel is or how this can be a problem. Can any of >> you enlighten me ? What is a cPanel, why can this be a problem and >> how would > it >> not allow me full control of my lists ? >> >> In addition, what problems should I expect to encounter in hosting my > lists >> with an outside Mailman hosting service ? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> Joe. >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: >> http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- >> users%40python.org/ >> Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- >> users/brian%40emwd.com > > Hi Joe: > > I think we discussed your mailman needs a couple of times over the phone. > > cPanel is a webhosting control panel that is very popular (for good > reason) among web hosting companies and it includes the use of mailman. > > cPanel is typically used within a shared hosting environment and I > believe it has done a lot in getting mailman into the hands of many list users. > Because of the nature of a shared hosting environment, typical mailman > users would not have access to the mailman server itself in order to > make any customizations such as searchable archives, etc. However my > company hosts over a 1000 mailman lists on our cPanel servers and our > list clients are very happy with the arrangement. But YMMV. > > If you have not required backend access before to your mailman server > then I would think you will not have any problems utilizing a cPanel > enabled mailman service. I would be interested in hearing some details > of your IT specialist's reservations of cPanel and mailman. > > Brian Carpenter > EMWD.com > > Providing Cloud Services and more for over 15 years. > > T: 336.755.0685 > E: br...@emwd.com > www.emwd.com > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/gkasica%40netwrx1.com ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
