Hi

I've just upgraded to Mailman 2.1.9 from a much earlier installation.
One of the new features that puzzles me is the 'uncaught bounce notification'. 
I get these for out-of-office responses and for auto-replies. 

The auto-replies come from some artificial mailbox address.

The out-of-office responses will come either from an address on my list, or, 
where the address on my list is itself the address of a list on the remote 
system, from an individual address on the remote list. A few are addressed to 
<list>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (as they used to be) and the majority to <list>[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

I have some questions:

Q1    Why are they called 'uncaught' since they have clearly been sent to a 
Mailman address, and then neatly packaged up by Mailman and sent to me as list 
and/or site admin? Are they really just 'unrecognizable' possible bounces (as 
it says in the body of the Mailman email), or am I missing something?

Q2.    Have these responses also been sent to the sender of the message to 
which they are responses?  
(I don't see how they can have been, as there's nothing in most of the headers 
relating to the original message)

Q3    Are these responses causing the bounce count for the users to be 
increased?
(Again, I don't think that this can be the case, because they come back from a 
different address at the same domain, except possibly for the rare occasion 
where an out-of-office response comes back from an individual mailbox which is 
on my list)

Q4    How can I inspect users' bounce counts?

Q5    A small number of mailboxes were automatically set to nomail because of 
bouncing due to errors on my part (NB these were NOT the ones generating 
uncaught bounce messages). Mailman's behaviour in this case was reasonable, 
except (here's the important part) it did NOT send me a message about the 
suspension. But I have bounce_notify_owner_on_disable set to Yes and 
bounce_notify_owner_on_unsubscribe_set to Yes. (The same thing used to happen 
on the antique Mailman installation, but at least there I would get 
notifications most of the time). Where should I look to find out why these 
notifications are not reaching me? 

Q6    Again with regard to Q5: 
I've checked my aliases file and it looks OK. Exactly which role in 
<list>-<role>@mydomain.net should the notifications be coming to?

My main concern is actually Q5, because at present it looks like I need to 
audit all my mailing lists (more frequently than used to be the case) to check 
whether users are being dropped without me being notified. But I'd like to 
understand the other stuff too.

Rod


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