Greg Sims wrote: >We have a newsletter type list that has been running for almost two years >now. The list currently has 1,100 members who receive one email each >morning. The Bounce Configuration page for this list is configured as >follows: Yes, 5.0, 30, 2, 7, Yes, Yes, Yes which I believe may be the >defaults. The system is running under RedHat V4.
These may be the mm_cfg.py defaults for ne lists at your site, but the Defaults.py defaults are Yes, 5.0, 7, 3, 7, Yes, Yes, Yes, but that doesn't really affect the rest of your question. >I ran the following command: grep 'score' /var/log/mailman/bounce and >received a list of 28 users that have records containing "(score 5.0 >= >5.0)". I can see one duplicate email address in this list of 28 - most of >the records appear to be unique email addresses. The dates on the records >cover a period of one week. Do these entries say "sending listname list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 5.0 >= 5.0)"? Is VERP_PROBES = Yes in mm_cfg.py (or is this Mailman 2.1.5 where VERP probes was unconditionally on)? If so, do you see in the bounce log that a probe was sent but didn't bounce? If so, it is likely that your MTA doesn't recognize the '+' delimiter to separate the VERP probe token from the local part of an address and can't deliver the bounce. >It appears there are a number of candidates that could have their >subscriptions Disabled and/or Removed from the list. I have been the list >admin for two years now and I have never received an email saying a list >member has been Disabled or Removed. This seems odd based on what I am >seeing in the logs. I do receive emails for bounce messages that fail >detection regularly. With the settings you have, you should receive disabled notices. >Is it possible to see in a log (or through the online interface) when a user >is placed in Disabled status? I would like to be able to grep this log and >see if anyone is being Disabled or Removed - this may confirm if there is >actually a problem or not. Let's say looking at the logs reveals that list >members are not ever being Disabled or Removed - what is the next step to >debugging this problem? 'Disabling' entries will appear in the bounce log if members are actually disabled. bin/list_members --nomail=bybounce listname will list all the disabled by bounce members. If there aren't any, and I suspect there aren't, I suspect that examination of the bounce log will show "sending listname list probe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (score 5.0 >= 5.0)" entries, but no "listname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] disabling due to probe bounce received" entries. If this is the case, I suspect it is because the MTA does not know how to deliver mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least doesn't pipe it to the wrapper as it does for mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp