On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Patrick Bogen wrote: > I'm not entirely sure what the point of this message was. > > Bearing that in mind, you shouldn't be using moderation as a > first-line anti-spam defense. Your MTA should be tagging emails as > spam (e.g., using Spamassassin, or something better suited to your > particular configuration), greylisting, etc. With a properly > configured setup, the spam that actually reaches the moderation > interface should be minimal; most of it should be discarded (not > rejected) by mailman, at the very least. > > This is fairly trivial to implement; just set up your MTA to pass mail > through spamassassin, and then add a check for the headers it adds to > mailman's list configuration, if nothing else.
That fails the test of reality on lists I run which can be filtered. The problem is so big now simple filtering doesn't do that much good. On those lists that can't (security related with a lot of false positives) not practical. > If I'm understanding your concern, the key here is for you to > configure your mailman installation to discard known spam messages > rather than rejecting them. This is, in fact, one of the options on > the moderation screen (you may choose to Accept, Defer, Reject, or > Discard messages). Auto-discarding may be an option, but it isn't in this case, as I need to approve a lot of non-subscribed posts. > Additionally, as far as I know, you CAN moderate non-members > differently; although perhaps I don't have the same understanding of > that phrase as you do. You can set messages from non-members to be > automatically discarded or rejected, as you wish. See Privacy Options > > Sender Filters > generic_nonmember_action Moderate them differently and still have a choice? Going through modding subscribers and seeing 2-3 posts, and going through non-subscribers and seeing hundreds, simply isn't the same when on the same screen. > -- > - Patrick Bogen > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp