Hello Mark, Mark Sapiro, Freitag, 3. März 2006 00:02:
> Are you sure? Are there no entries at all in the 'bounce' log > other than the 'unrecognized' ones. Thanks for that hint. I was looking in /var/log/... , but there were no log entries from mailman. Now I know better where to look. And yes, you are right: there are of course other entries than the unrecognized ones. But the unrecognized ones make half of the log entries. > Since you already have enabled full personalization for the list, > you can at no extra cost set > > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > > in mm_cfg.py to enhance bounce recognition. I have already thought about this. But I was not sure if this might be a problem to my postfix MTA. I have no idea if my postfix can handle these address types. > Are the bounce notices returned as unrecognized in English? Not > the text from Mailman which is in your list language, but the > actual attached bounce. > > If you forward one or more of the actual bounce notices, we can > see what the recognition issue is and update the bounce > recognizers if necessary. Without the intact actual bounce, we > can't tell you anything. OK, I attach one bounce here, Maybe you can see what mailman doesn't like about it. For me it is very clear that it is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address which is bouncing. Thanks for your help! AT Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service, from userid 1004) id AD5AC100A954; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:36 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with ESMTP id B9B44100BF1B for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mydomain.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32002-08 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with ESMTP id A093B100A955 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 (CET) Delivery-Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:20:00 +0100 Received-SPF: none (mxeu17: 212.227.126.240 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mout-bounce.kundenserver.de) client-ip=212.227.126.240; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; helo=mout-bounce.kundenserver.de; Received: from pop.1und1.com [212.227.15.161] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5.2) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:22:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [212.227.126.240] (helo=mout-bounce.kundenserver.de) by mx.kundenserver.de (node=mxeu17) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxIC-1FE8W00flx-0005g9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:20:00 +0100 Received: from mout by mouteu2.kundenserver.de id 0MKvEC-1FE8V20Bkm-00025n; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:19:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:19:00 +0100 From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-Id: 0ML25U-1FE8V12M9j-0006lD Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mydomain.de This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. The following addresses failed: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command: host mailin02.sul.t-online.de[194.25.134.9]: 550 user unknown --- The header of the original message is following. --- Received: from [84.154.27.78] (helo=mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1FE8V12M9j-0006lD; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with ESMTP id EA2CD100A954 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mydomain.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31861-10 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailsrv.mycompanysname.lan (mycompanysname mail service) with ESMTP id BB6BD100A308 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:58 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Sie_haben_die_Mailingliste_=22newsletter=22_ab?= =?iso-8859-1?q?bestellt?= From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:57 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 List-Id: newsletter <newsletter.mydomain.de> X-List-Administrivia: yes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mydomain.de X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] login:50f36a15497f230366e1019f5ac05f49 -- Andre Tann ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp