On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 7:19 AM Stephen J. Turnbull <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thomas Ward via Mailman-users writes:
>
>  > Okay, so links get purged apparently [1] was supposed to point at
>  > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/install.html
>  >
>  > On 2026-03-30 13:49, Thomas Ward via Mailman-users wrote:
>  > > With recent revisions I made to the general Installation page
>  > > that leads to other pages [1], we could write a
>  > > "Install-From-HEAD-DANGEROUS" document (akin to the existing
>  > > virtualenv install documents but then specify alternative install
>  > > commands to install from HEAD), detailing how to install from
>  > > HEAD with the major disclaimer notice about this NOT being
>  > > recommended unless you want or need to track Git HEAD.
>  > >
>  > > The parent page there at [1] can thus have a huge disclaimer
>  > > saying "You should only do this if you really need to or are
>  > > intending to work with development of Mailman 3 and its
>  > > components."
>
> I would prefer not to suggest that people can do development without
> cloning at least the relevant git repo.  I would have the disclaimer
> be something like
>
>     Occasionally ongoing development of dependencies causes
>     incompatibilities with released packages on PyPI.  These usually
>     get fixed quickly in the trunk.  An alternative to patching
>     individual files that allows you to seamlessly return to the
>     release track is to do a pip install from the HEAD versions of
>     various Mailman packages.  This also has the advantage that you
>     can tell us exactly what versions of Mailman packages you have
>     installed without having to track manual patching.  The
>     disadvantage, of course, is temporarily installing "beta"
>     software.
>
> What Do Others Think?
>

I think those who want to run bleeding-edge software must be able to find
out the details by themselves as opposed to being told how to do it.
Ordinary souls like some of us must contend with released versions, not
beta :-)

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