On Tue, Mar 3, 2026, at 4:42 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> I would like to make a note. Firstly, the Debian bug reports *do not* always
> trickle upstream as they are not necessarily Mailman-upstream bugs or issues.
> Additionally, the Debian packaging is *NOT* done by Mailman's team
> necessarily, either, which introduces the "You need to deal with this in
> $DISTRO specifically, not with us" issue.
>
Yeah, i know, it's a packaging error, which is why I reported it to Debian, not
to Mailman.
> ... if we read the Installation Instructions on the Mailman Suite
> documentation [1], we see that the "Recommended for Production" suggestion is
> to use the `pip` / `virtualenv` installation method.
>
If you've got a fresh Debian install, and you see Debian packages for Mailman,
that's what you're going to try first. Especially after having Mailman 2
installed from Debian packages from Debian 6 to Debian 11. It's only after
encountering numerous problems that I uninstalled them and went to look at
Mailman's documentation and do it the Mailman way.
It was a lot easier that way - for one thing the documentation is more up to
date and complete.
--
Paul Tomblin
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