Hi Folks,
   I'm running the Debian-packaged mailman3 (yes I know ...)
   and running:
     sudo -u list mailman -h
   gives a python backtrace (which I've appended the tail end of).
   Can someone who has the upstream installed version (using venv)
   please check that `mailman -h` works there before I waste too much time
   investigating in the wrong places?

...
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 44, in 
_load
    add_components('commands', ICLISubCommand, self._commands)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py", line 218, 
in add_components
    for component_class in find_pluggable_components(subpackage, interface):
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py", line 181, 
in find_pluggable_components
    for name, plugin_config in config.plugin_configs:
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/config/config.py", line 291, in 
plugin_configs
    plugin_sections = self._config.getByCategory('plugin', [])
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getByCategory'


Peter C
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