Paul,

yes "click fatigue/click cluelesness" is an issue but the dialog box does provide one more potential barrier to a successful attack.

By the way there is a wwwcast series on mobile device security over the next 5 weeks that is sponsored by sybase/ianywhere. The speaker in the first wwwcast, Jack Gold, actually specifically mentions Nokia devices. For those interested, below are the urls to the wwwcast series.


   Compliance in the Mobile Enterprise (featuring J. Gold Associates)
   Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007
   Time: 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German time and
              2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German time
   At the time of the 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   
https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=JMDK7M&role=attend&pw=Compliance
   At the time of the 2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   
https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=NB9PW3&role=attend&pw=Compliance
   Audio Access information is below.
   ________________________________________
   Managed Security -- The Key to a Comprehensive Mobile Security Strategy
   Date: Thursday, March 1, 2007
   Time: 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German time and
              2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German time
   At the time of the 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=J44HNQ&role=attend&pw=Security
   At the time of the 2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=MDZ3F6&role=attend&pw=Security
   Audio Access information is below.
   ________________________________________
   Securing Handheld Devices, Data and Applications
   Date: Thursday, March 8, 2007
   Time: 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German time and
              2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German time
   At the time of the 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=78T32S&role=attend&pw=Handheld
   At the time of the 2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=D3C4PX&role=attend&pw=Handheld
   Audio Access information is below.
   ________________________________________
   Encryption and Security Strategies for Laptops
   Date: Thursday, March 15, 2007
   Time: 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German time and
              2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German time
   At the time of the 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=6XK6RF&role=attend&pw=Laptop
   At the time of the 2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=KWC4TK&role=attend&pw=Laptop
   Audio Access information is below.
   ________________________________________
   Secure Wireless Email -- Top Considerations
   Date: Thursday, March 22, 2007
   Time: 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German time and
              2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German time
   At the time of the 10 am Eastern time - 3 pm UK time - 16 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=4CG6WS&role=attend&pw=Email
   At the time of the 2 pm Eastern time - 7 pm UK time - 20 Uhr German
   time webinar, please click on the following URL:
   https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sybase/join?id=Z8CW4N&role=attend&pw=Email
   Audio Access information is below.
   ________________________________________
Best Regards,



John Holmblad








Paul Brook wrote:
by way of example, my PC has a firewall (Symantec) that does outbound
filtering. I appreciate the fact that when I  launch an application  for
which I have not previously provided authorization to access the
Internet (defined here as an IP range beyond my LAN subnet), the
firewall warns me before allowing the connection to take place and lets
me decide whether to block, allow this one time, or allow permanently
the access.  With this kind of protection  on devices such as the N800,
it is more likely that the outbound filter will also catch a silent
rogue app that, by some means, has gotten installed on the device.(these
days typically by a user being socially engineered to do something that
they should not do).

I think you're over-estimating the knowhow and patience of an "average user".

In my experience this kind of warning triggers sufficiently often on a sufficiently wide range of applications that most users either disable it or automatically click yes without even reading it properly. The sort of person that pays attention to this sort of firewall is also the sort of person that probably knows better than to install untrusted software on their machine.

Outgoing firewalls aren't totally useless, but IMHO they're greatly overrated.

Paul

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