Hi Matthew, Oh, I used a tool called VOCR to be able to read the set up screens, once I'm in windows, I just use windows command.
Hope that helps! Here's a link too. VOCR. https://github.com/chigkim/VOCR chigkim/VOCR github.com > On Jun 25, 2023, at 6:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hey, > > I have not seen any problems with tables in safari at least with basic ones. > I have not seen any complecs tables enough to really test how they work. > > Michiel, how did you get the paroles to work with vo? Just wondered as I > last heard it was not accessible and the developpers had not plans to make it > so. Thanks. > > Matthew > > > > Matthew Dyer > Sent from outlook365 > Follow me on mastodon at [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 6:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Since upgrade to Ventura, unable to read tables in Safari > > Hi Donna, > > I'll second that I have issues with tables in some instances in Safari. > > It would be interesting if anyone can share some site that they experience > issues with to see if other people are, as maybe it's a configuration issue > that some of us have not made an order to navigate tables. All of the tables > I have problems with our internal tools that I cannot share access to, > however, it does pop up occasionally, and this is what pushed me to actually > purchase parallels. I wanted to actually work, and could not do that in > Safari, or edge with VoiceOver on the Mac, as the table would not allow you > to use your VoiceOver plus up and down, left and right keys in order to > navigate it at all. And, disabling the ability to group tables had no impact. > >> On Jun 24, 2023, at 1:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Joseph, >> >> Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one, I guess. For me it’s a little >> different. I interact with the table, but can’t read any of the columns. >> >> I agree with you about the Safari busy thing. That's sooooooooooooooo >> annoying!!! For a while now, I’ve kept a Mac and a Pc. I was really hoping >> the day was coming when I could ditch the PC, but it doesn’t sound like >> that’s going to happen any time soon. It seems to me that Apple’s putting >> all of its energy into new products, when they ought to be working on >> tightening up the existing ones. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:16 AM, joseph hodge <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I’m actually having problems too. Usually what tends to happen is I can >>> read it sometimes but then if I go right then move left on a particular >>> row, it will completely mess up! From what I can see it tends to be a >>> Safari thing I’ve used edge and it seems to be a bit better there although >>> sometimes it still happens! It’s really annoying and actually has me >>> Considering selling my Mac. The Safari busy and now this really has me >>> contemplating whether or not this machine is worth the money. The only >>> thing kind of keeping me from doing this is I just don’t like how Windows >>> works either. That being said, at least I can read tables and browse the >>> web fairly easy! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Herbie Allen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 06:27, Brad Snyder <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've been using Ventura on two different machines since October, and have >>>>> not noticed any issue with tables in safari webpages. The behavior seems >>>>> consistent with previous versions of safari and the macOS. >>>>> >>>>> - Brad - >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 24, 2023, at 07:49, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Subject says it all. Since upgrading to Ventura, I find that very often >>>>> I am unable to read the content of tables in Safari. Is there some trick >>>>> to this that I don’t know about? If not, that is a huge miss by Apple. >>>>> There are lots of websites that use tables. 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