On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 17:15, Mark Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Further, Apple agrees that You will not be bound by the foregoing > confidentiality terms with regard to technical information about > pre-release Apple Software and services disclosed by Apple at WWDC (Apple’s > Worldwide Developers Conference), except that You may not post screenshots, > write public reviews or redistribute any pre-release Apple Software or > services. > > > > Genuinely, not sarcastically or politically. I have no interest in > losing my developer program membership. What about Sierra and iOS 10 can we > talk about based on this clause? I had thought it was stuff like this, but > I appear to have been mistaken. > > Hey Mark, > > My personal and unaffiliated (Apple hat is off) strict interpretation of > this is that you can discuss anything that was made publicly available by > Apple through public announcements but nothing more. In the past, these > restrictions were much tighter, but they have loosened up quite a bit over > the past few years alongside the public betas. I suggest you reach out to > Apple WWDR for clarification on the terms if you are uncertain (and I would > be extremely happy to be wrong if they state otherwise), but it's always > good to be on the safe side. As someone else mentioned on the thread, > Apple did not disclose MacPorts interoperability with Sierra, so a strict > interpretation of the agreement would suggest keeping a lid on it with > respect to MacPorts and filing radars at http://bugreport.apple.com for > any compatibility issue you run into (and I'd welcome getting pinged about > such issues, so I can look into them personally). > > Also note that in the past, such restrictions loosened once the first > public beta was made available, so it's possible that such open discussion > will be ok once that happens. > > --Jeremy > > > > > —Mark > > _______________________ > > Mark E. Anderson <[email protected]> > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jeremy Sequoia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone... > > > > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 13:55, Bachsau <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Am 19.06.2016 um 05:24 schrieb Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < > [email protected]>: > > >> > > >> As a reminder, macOS 10.12 Sierra has only been released as a > developer preview to developers and is covered by an NDA. > > > > > > Ever heard of something called "free speech"? The snowden leaks were > also covered by an NDA an we know what it led to. > > > > I suggest you consult with a lawyer to learn a bit about those terms, > and they can explain to you that NDAs are not a violation of one's first > amendment rights. > > > > Because of his well informed choice, Snowden basically lost his freedom > of movement and is confined to "living on the Internet" (in Russia). While > the same won't happen here and your analogy is quite laughable, it is > important for developers to remember the agreements that they have signed > and honor their word if they expect others to trust them in the future. > Most violations (like this) are simply accidental and developers for the > most part want to honor the agreement and appreciate such clarifications > and reminders. Egregious and intentional violations of the NDA have in the > past resulted in termination of the developer relationship with Apple which > can be quite damaging to a developer's livelihood. I'm just trying to help > protect the developers that want to honor their word. > > _______________________________________________ > > macports-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > macports-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users > > > _______________________________________________ > macports-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users > >
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