Hello,

Dec 29, 2020, 03:04 by [email protected]:

> Sir,
>
> Also...are you (we) trying to move away from Jekll and markdown? If so, I 
> should not waste my time in markdown for now.
>
I think the Hugo looks nice, but I wouldn't say that move away from Jekyll is a 
must. I have been looking more at what has nice free templates I could use with 
minimal changes and that was funnelling my search, not the backend engine.

(For example I have been looking at 
https://github.com/nekocode/codelabs-hugo-theme and 
https://github.com/nekocode/codelabs-hugo-theme or 
https://github.com/samuelhorn/jamdocs or https://github.com/jeblister/kube .)

And I think Markdown and ASCIIDoc are nice, but don't have any particular 
attachment to any of them. Do you think there is something better what could be 
used?

>
> ...
>
> Seth
>
> P.S. I have found that there are some other items out there like what you 
> described, the CodeLabs and some others, that can help me help you help me 
> help others. Phew. That was difficult to type out. 
>
It was just something I found a little while ago when I was investigating how 
to make the documentation better. I am not married to this idea, just seemed 
interesting at the time.

Any help welcome!

Cern.

> On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 6:02:03 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>> Dec 18, 2020, 03:50 by >> [email protected] <>>> : 
>>  
>> > Hello, 
>> > 
>> > You got it. Do not solely rely on me but if you want me to start sharing 
>> > ideas, I can keep it up to date constantly. If learning this source will 
>> > help me w/ my machines, learning is preferable for me and I can document 
>> > things well enough to have others understand it easily (outside of some 
>> > reasoning behind C/C++). 
>> > 
>> I think that different people have different ways of how to approach this 
>> endeavour. Things which were important for me to understand, so I can boast 
>> understanding of the whole system are not necessarily  things somebody else 
>> will need to understand for the same level of feelings. I am and was 
>> approaching this from a software engineering point of view, not a machinist 
>> or machine integrator angle. So I am interested in how and with what exactly 
>> people are struggling with. 
>>  
>> > 
>> > Seth 
>> > 
>> > P.S. So, even though I have not started yet, starting w/ machines is 
>> > something I find neat. So, I am starting now at an older age b/c "why 
>> > not?" Why would I just sit still doing nothing all day? Oh and sir, I 
>> > understand about the gearing towards the BBB for me. I brought it up b/c 
>> > they have an image w/ it specifically motioned towards the machinekit 
>> > ideas. I understand now that other boards hold machinekit too. Now, if I 
>> > can only add in machinekit jargon while creating these messages. Sheesh. 
>> > 
>> Nobody is too old to learn something new! And on a side note, I have always 
>> found that I am able to learn when I want to, not when I should or somebody 
>> else thinks that I should. Or when I have a problem in need of solution. So 
>> I am fully supporting this approach. 
>>  
>> Cern. 
>>  
>> > 
>> > On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:14:59 PM UTC-6 >> [email protected] <>>>  
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Hi, 
>> >> sure. I meant that it would be part of the Machinekit.io website and 
>> >> served as a part of it. But you are right that there currently is no 
>> >> provision for it and that would need to be scripted in. 
>> >> 
>> >> So, for now just try to do what you think is best. 
>> >> 
>> >> I am not against the BBB. It is a good system. If you want to zero on 
>> >> BBB, then by all means. I was just mentioning, that Machinekit is not 
>> >> geared only towards BBB and that there are groups using other platforms. 
>> >> 
>> >> Cern. 
>> >> 
>> >> Dec 14, 2020, 03:49 by >> >> [email protected] <>>>  <>>> : 
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Hello, 
>> >> > 
>> >> > I can try. I looked over the idea of making the googlecodelab/tools. I 
>> >> > would not want to hold the server on my end but I may find another 
>> >> > resource. I will keep learning and like you said, I will try to not 
>> >> > gear it towards the BBB.  
>> >> > 
>> >> > ... 
>> >> > 
>> >> > I just know that those boards are my boards of choice. So, I am a bit 
>> >> > hesitant to try to make it for another type of board or for a 32-bit OS 
>> >> > w/ parport. But, like I say, I can try and I will keep learning while 
>> >> > promoting the effort.  
>> >> > 
>> >> > Seth 
>> >> > On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:07:17 PM UTC-6 >> >> [email protected] 
>> >> > <>>>  <>>>  wrote: 
>> >> > 
>> >> >> Hi, 
>> >> >> of course, this is a voluntary project, you can take as much time as 
>> >> >> you need. I heard that people who just learned something are the best 
>> >> >> teachers. I don't know if I agree completely, but for sure it is a 
>> >> >> good way how to sort out newly acquired knowledge even better! 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I was thinking of creating few hands-on tutorial for specific problems 
>> >> >> with use of Codelabs: >> >> >> 
>> >> >> https://github.com/googlecodelabs/tools>> >> >>  (It looks quite easy, 
>> >> >> has OK-ish template and the flow looks very similar to instructables.) 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Cern. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Dec 9, 2020, 07:12 by >> >> >> [email protected] <>>>  <>>>  <>>> : 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Hello, 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > If you guys have patience, I would be willing to write up ideas 
>> >> >> > revolving around MachineKit. It would be a side project but a much 
>> >> >> > needed one for me. To tell you the truth, I learn a lot of things 
>> >> >> > constantly. I am always picking up new books, reading articles, and 
>> >> >> > practicing Linux based initiatives. I use motors for fun for now but 
>> >> >> > I have been learning more about C/C++ and Python as time persists.  
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > ... 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I said the site was fine and I think it is...it is in a list format. 
>> >> >> > Far from a tree structure but the site is needed if people are to 
>> >> >> > want to adjust to the way machinekit is set up. 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Seth 
>> >> >> > On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-6 >> >> >> 
>> >> >> > [email protected] <>>>  <>>>  <>>>  wrote: 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> Thank you for the input! 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Dec 7, 2020, 07:04 by >> >> >> >> [email protected] <>>>  <>>>  <>>> 
>> >> >> >>  <>>> : 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > Hello, 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I say start small w/ the site. Add a few hyperlinks to start. 
>> >> >> >> > Make something official geared towards people like me who are 
>> >> >> >> > newcomers and willing to spend time dedicated to application. I 
>> >> >> >> > am a starter in this field but I am getting older and older. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> Yes, small is something which I had in mind. I don't think there is 
>> >> >> >> enough power or willingness to do full in-depth rewrite. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > ... 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > Small site and a full representation of a working order would be 
>> >> >> >> > nice for people staring blindly at the famous pages that seem to 
>> >> >> >> > multiply quickly when viewing. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I posted a small section from github in the form of a hyperlink. 
>> >> >> >> > It basically just goes to an incomplete but dedicated piece of 
>> >> >> >> > text on github that supports machinekit ideas w/ gcode, .ini 
>> >> >> >> > files, and basics on ideas for setting up commands. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I think this is a good starter for people. I am sure that most of 
>> >> >> >> > you are very educated in this dept. and do not need to bother w/ 
>> >> >> >> > newcomers and nonsensical questions. I understand. I have been 
>> >> >> >> > behind the helm asking silly questions for five years in the 
>> >> >> >> > BBB.io world. The books were nice at first, the starter scripts 
>> >> >> >> > were nice too, and in the end, it seems that people stopped their 
>> >> >> >> > futuristic approach to the entire community of newcomers, their 
>> >> >> >> > ideas, and bringing old to new. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > There is no pressure from me. I can learn from the >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > machinekit.io <http://machinekit.io>>>  <>> 
>> >> >> >> > http://machinekit.io>> >>>  <>> >> http://machinekit.io>> >> >>>  
>> >> >> >> > <>> >> >> http://machinekit.io>> >> >> >>>  site like I have been 
>> >> >> >> > doing. But after a bit of spending time on the site, it is an 
>> >> >> >> > actually large database. It is easy to use and dedicated to 
>> >> >> >> > instruction. This is nice. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> Most people who I talked about the site said to me that it is 
>> >> >> >> chaotic, the tree structure doesn't make sense and finding anything 
>> >> >> >> even with a search engine is Herculean task. It is interesting that 
>> >> >> >> you find the site fine and definitely something which needs to be 
>> >> >> >> taken into consideration. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I say keep it or are you guys going to rearrange things a bit? I 
>> >> >> >> > ask b/c some of the ideas are not BBB.io related. I am not 
>> >> >> >> > affiliated w/ the >> >> >> >> beagleboard.org 
>> >> >> >> > <http://beagleboard.org>>>  <>> http://beagleboard.org>> >>>  <>> 
>> >> >> >> > >> http://beagleboard.org>> >> >>>  <>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > http://beagleboard.org>> >> >> >>>  people but I enjoy using 
>> >> >> >> > their boards for learning Linux based initiatives.  
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> I would say the biggest problem is the fact that the site still 
>> >> >> >> presumes (and gives the impression) that Machinekit is monorepo. It 
>> >> >> >> does not differentiate between Machinekit-HAL, MKSoCFPGA, 
>> >> >> >> EMCApplication, HAL_ROS_control (when I include the Zultron's 
>> >> >> >> project) and other parts. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> And I hope many ideas are not BBB related. I would hate if people 
>> >> >> >> thought that Machinekit is BeagleBone only endeavour. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I just like motor work, the use of motors, and to mfg. new 
>> >> >> >> > machines when I can to promote the ideas behind it all. Finding 
>> >> >> >> > open minds is not easy. People would rather pay for a Arduino w/ 
>> >> >> >> > a cheap daughter card so that they can put GRBL or Marlin on it. 
>> >> >> >> > Machinekit is not the same and is highly configurable. This is 
>> >> >> >> > what I think is nice about the entire set up you guys have in the 
>> >> >> >> > CNC world. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> Well, to be fair, there is a tonnage of interesting ideas in the 
>> >> >> >> Arduino world. If it all can be somehow interconnected or reused, 
>> >> >> >> the better. In terms of better documentation, getting up some page 
>> >> >> >> comparing Arduino products to Machinekit et al. is source of 
>> >> >> >> tension than a helpful tool in the long run. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Cern. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > But, like my old posts in the field, I say a Cape for the BBB or 
>> >> >> >> > BBAI would be neat.  
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > Well, it is late and I have not tested much recently. I just got 
>> >> >> >> > trying to handle interrupts on some Python3 source via the Motor 
>> >> >> >> > Bridge Cape, the BBGG, and some other source. Testing will ensue! 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > Seth 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > P.S. Nothing is final. Things evolve, people take specific 
>> >> >> >> > routes, and stuff stays the same. MachineKit! 
>> >> >> >> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:54:09 PM UTC-6 >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > [email protected] <>>>  <>>>  <>>>  <>>>  wrote: 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> The was discussion about this problem in the Machinekit chat 
>> >> >> >> >> room. The truth is that the community support in Machinekit is 
>> >> >> >> >> and was not good (being tactful) and with changes in development 
>> >> >> >> >> it only got worse. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> The documentation is bad and obsolete, the site itself is pretty 
>> >> >> >> >> chaotic and finding information is almost Sisyphean task. 
>> >> >> >> >> Everybody recognises this. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> The changes happening in development on Github were not manually 
>> >> >> >> >> propagated here to Google groups. Moreover, the links at top are 
>> >> >> >> >> again long obsolete in its step-by-step tutorial value (but the 
>> >> >> >> >> overall explanation and goals are still more or less valid). 
>> >> >> >> >> This is a lot more murky than to say "The site needs 
>> >> >> >> >> replacement" - because Machinekit always recognised the need for 
>> >> >> >> >> the user to be proactive and keep a finger on the pulse of 
>> >> >> >> >> development (and encouraged to do some development themselves). 
>> >> >> >> >> No version of Machinekit (meaning Machinekit organization's 
>> >> >> >> >> project here and in whole text) is production ready in the sense 
>> >> >> >> >> of guaranteeing stable version and high level of support. With 
>> >> >> >> >> the understanding that if somebody wants to or need to, he 
>> >> >> >> >> should produce his own stable branch (with implementing upstream 
>> >> >> >> >> changes as he sees fit). That was the status quo for companies 
>> >> >> >> >> using Machinekit in their commercial offerings. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> However, the community forum is good for something like user 
>> >> >> >> >> issue sharing, basic supporting questions and proud 
>> >> >> >> >> presentations of own use of Machinekit. Just people should not 
>> >> >> >> >> forget that there is also the Github issue tracker specific to 
>> >> >> >> >> each project used for developer talk (which does not mean that 
>> >> >> >> >> only developers or contributors can comment on presented 
>> >> >> >> >> issues). 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> This out of the way, let's talk about how to reinvigorate the 
>> >> >> >> >> Machinekit community (because otherwise all this is useless). 
>> >> >> >> >> The website with repository README page are first point of 
>> >> >> >> >> contacts with new users. Usually what I need to know about new 
>> >> >> >> >> OSS is WHAT is it, WHY does it exist, HOW can I use it and WHEN 
>> >> >> >> >> should I use it. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Current status of Machinekit site did not change much from the 
>> >> >> >> >> time Machinekit was forked. It is Jekyll based site with own 
>> >> >> >> >> theme build from Machinekit-docs repository with use of Github 
>> >> >> >> >> Actions service and deployed to >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Machinekit.github.io <http://Machinekit.github.io>>>  <>> 
>> >> >> >> >> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >>>  <>> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >>>  <>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >> >>>  <>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >> >> >>>  repository as Github 
>> >> >> >> >> Pages. I think this is a nice setup. (Not the Jekyll part, I 
>> >> >> >> >> don't care if Hugo, Gridsome, Docusaurus or whatever else is 
>> >> >> >> >> used, but the fact that it is basically static site which can be 
>> >> >> >> >> hosted pretty much anywhere and quickly replicated in case of 
>> >> >> >> >> problem by anybody.) The build is based on a very precarious 
>> >> >> >> >> Docker image (which is based on Debian Jessie and cannot be 
>> >> >> >> >> rebuilt anymore). And some parts are broken and no longer 
>> >> >> >> >> building. In other word, bad. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> So, the path with the least resistance as far as I can see it is 
>> >> >> >> >> to choose some simple theme with documentation support, change 
>> >> >> >> >> colours to ochre and teal, put logo at top and write some basic 
>> >> >> >> >> documentation answering the above presented question. While 
>> >> >> >> >> letting the current site live somewhere online for users 
>> >> >> >> >> interested in archaeology to study. Problem is, it is still 
>> >> >> >> >> going to require many man-hours to accomplish, but it is needed 
>> >> >> >> >> for survival. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> The other point is this forum. To tell the truth, I hate mail 
>> >> >> >> >> lists. But many people love them. Removing the obsolete links is 
>> >> >> >> >> connected to the website. But maybe the community would be 
>> >> >> >> >> better server with modern interface with common functions known 
>> >> >> >> >> from other places like mentions, responsive design for reading 
>> >> >> >> >> on mobile devices (not nice with current setup), SSO. Tools like 
>> >> >> >> >> Discourse, nodeBB or Flarum are able to somewhat function over 
>> >> >> >> >> emails with Discourse being the most advanced in this regard. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> So the importation of messages from this group would be possible 
>> >> >> >> >> and hosting it on 1 GB small server should be enough for the 
>> >> >> >> >> size of this community. The questing stays if it was a positive 
>> >> >> >> >> move for the community and not just task for the task itself. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Comments welcome. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Cern. (alias @cerna on Github) 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Dne středa 25. listopadu 2020 v 20:46:14 UTC+1 uživatel 
>> >> >> >> >> sliptonic napsal: 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >>> I'm speaking out of frustration, disappointment, and a touch of 
>> >> >> >> >>> anger. You've been warned. 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> I had such high hopes for this project.  I've been using 
>> >> >> >> >>> linuxcnc/machinekit for 13 years.  Like most people, I have a 
>> >> >> >> >>> love-hate relationship with it.  So much promise and so much 
>> >> >> >> >>> frustration all together.  When the fork happened, I was one 
>> >> >> >> >>> who was cheering.  Forks used to be a bad thing but git changed 
>> >> >> >> >>> that.  Forks mean new ideas can be tested without disturbing 
>> >> >> >> >>> the mainline.   "Finally",  I thought,  "New approaches and 
>> >> >> >> >>> solutions.  Hope". 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> Ha!  What a joke.  This project has been a let down.   
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> The technical side has been great.  Really some amazing ideas 
>> >> >> >> >>> and progress.   
>> >> >> >> >>> The individual people are some of the nicest around.  Helpful, 
>> >> >> >> >>> hopeful, and smart.   
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> But the project?  Absolute disaster.  Every attempt at helpful 
>> >> >> >> >>> feedback has been met with words and no action.   The C4 
>> >> >> >> >>> concept might work in other projects but has produced no fruit 
>> >> >> >> >>> here at all.  Worse, it's prevented normal participation by 
>> >> >> >> >>> increasing the friction. 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> Documentation is almost non-existent. Where it exists, it's 
>> >> >> >> >>> often contradictory or just wrong. There are no reference 
>> >> >> >> >>> projects and hardly any videos.  The newsgroup is almost silent 
>> >> >> >> >>> and the gitter channel/matrix room are ghost towns where nobody 
>> >> >> >> >>> answers. 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> The project started with a high value for using git (remember 
>> >> >> >> >>> that fork thing?).  Today neither the machinekit-hal or 
>> >> >> >> >>> machinekit-cnc repos have any branches or tags besides master.  
>> >> >> >> >>> Seriously, HOW THE HELL do I find the last known working code!? 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> It looks like someone started a major development effort, broke 
>> >> >> >> >>> things, and then walked away and I can't find any discussion 
>> >> >> >> >>> about that initiative.  Why is it so hard to understand what 
>> >> >> >> >>> the hell is going on? 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> Look, if the project is dead, say that.  Lead it out to the 
>> >> >> >> >>> pasture and put a bullet in its head and let's get back to 
>> >> >> >> >>> making LinuxCNC better.   
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> If core contributors don't have time right now to continue 
>> >> >> >> >>> working, can we please take the time to mothball the thing 
>> >> >> >> >>> properly? 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> But if somebody thinks there's still value here (and I 
>> >> >> >> >>> seriously hope you do) then for the love of God can we please 
>> >> >> >> >>> do this right?  Can we document what works, consolidate our 
>> >> >> >> >>> communication, and lower the barriers to contribution? 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> Does anyone still care? 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> Ok, I feel better now. 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> > 
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