Oct 1, 2019, 22:11 by [email protected]:
> On Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:25:07 UTC+2, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Oct 1, 2019, 01:35 by >> [email protected] <>>> :
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, 30 September 2019 23:53:36 UTC+2, >> [email protected] <>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is a kernel module driver - src/rtapi/shmdrv folder and shmdrv.h
>> >> and shmdrv.c specifically - which I understand was initially meant for
>> >> RTAI support (maybe) but then as everything moved into userspace it was
>> >> phased out. But given this use-case, it wouldn't be too hard to dust it
>> >> off and use it for kernel-space connection with AXI DMA driver. Looking
>> >> at the >> >> https://xilinx-wiki.atlassian
>> >> <https://xilinx-wiki.atlassian>>> .>> >> net/wiki/spaces/A/pages/>>
>> >> 18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+Soft+>> IPs <>> https://xilinx-wiki.>>
>> >> atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/>> pages/18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+>> Soft+IPs
>> >> <https://xilinx-wiki.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/pages/18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+Soft+IPs>>>
>> >> >>> <>> >> https://xilinx-wiki <https://xilinx-wiki>>> .>> >>
>> >> atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/ <http://atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/>>> >>
>> >> pages/18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+>>> > Soft+IPs <>> https://xilinx-wiki.>>
>> >> atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/>> pages/18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+>> Soft+IPs
>> >> <https://xilinx-wiki.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/A/pages/18842337/DMA+Drivers+-+Soft+IPs>>>
>> >> >>> > page from Xilinx and the Linux port at >> >>
>> >> https://github.com/Xilinx/ <https://github.com/Xilinx/>>> >>
>> >> linux-xlnx/tree/master/>> drivers/dma/xilinx <>>
>> >> https://github.com/Xilinx/>> linux-xlnx/tree/master/>> drivers/dma/xilinx
>> >> <https://github.com/Xilinx/linux-xlnx/tree/master/drivers/dma/xilinx>>>
>> >> >>> <>> >> https://github.com/Xilinx/ <https://github.com/Xilinx/>>> >>
>> >> linux-xlnx/tree/master/>> drivers/dma/xilinx <>>
>> >> https://github.com/Xilinx/>> linux-xlnx/tree/master/>> drivers/dma/xilinx
>> >> <https://github.com/Xilinx/linux-xlnx/tree/master/drivers/dma/xilinx>>>
>> >> >>> > it should be possible to connect the HAL memory with DMA driver.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > seems highly probable
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> My initial idea to synchronize (or have one) memory is probably not that
>> >> great. Linux side Hal memory and FPGA side HAL memory would be better off
>> >> synchronized only on pins (data) which transcend the barrier. (HAL
>> >> component which runs in Linux RT thread with pin connected to HAL
>> >> component in FPGA fabric.) That way the number of signal changes from
>> >> fast FPGA side to "slow" ARM side would be minimal.
>> >>
>> >
>> > In the fpga some sort of state machine(s) logic would be implemented to
>> > act like a (small os)(protocol governing the rules for behaviour and
>> > triggering dma communication.
>> >
>> Something like this will need to be implemented in PS-side HAL/RTAPI too. To
>> trigger the DMA communication back to PL-side. (I would like to use this
>> mechanism with the MachinekitFS idea. BTW, looking through the EMC-dev
>> channel, I discovered that Haberler had this idea long before me in
>> prehistoric era. So it should be fairly generic.)
>>
>>
>
> I'm listening and so far only have a rough understanding but the thought of
> implementing character device based communication (ioctl) make me a bit
> uneasy as I understand this as a serial memory protocol where you have to
> send / receive at least a page size for any message which can give a lot of
> overhead.
> I prefer UIO style memory mapped style communication where you can say: send
> x to y and nothing more..
>
Wait, we probably don't understand each other. I had the initial idea to
support the poll/read/write and other file operations on HAL
Machinekit-to-Linux program. For poll, you would have to have list of waiting
threads and some mechanism for determining when to wake them (flag, call on pin
change etc). And only this mechanism could be reused for AXI DMA module, not
the whole file access thingy. The DMA-to-signalling should be as zero-copy and
small as possible. (You know, the whole idea is "Once it is there, lets use it
for as many things as possible".)
IOCTL I was thinking to use only for configuration (non-realtime) purpose.
("Create new instance of a HAL component named...").
>
>
>
>> In the Linux-side, there will also need to be an object in the HAL
>> representing the PL-side component. However, it would need some careful
>> planning and thinking though. Not just adding new component type beside the
>> TYPE_REMOTE, TYPE_USER, TYPE_RT. (Because, I don't feel fine with TYPE_user
>> and TYPE_RT component differentiation. Being real-time or non-realtime is
>> not distinction on component level, but actually on flavour level and thread
>> level - when you run the POSIX-NONREALTIME flavour, you are running the
>> TYPE_RT as a TYPE_USER. So nowadays, the only distinction is that TYPE_USER
>> components are running with external thread/scheduling. Which with this
>> state machine idea could TYPE_RT too. [It's crutch from LinuxCNC time.]) So
>> part of the work is to figure out how to make it generic enough and not fuck
>> everyone else up.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> However, would it be possible to use some of these premade AXI DMA IP
>> >> cores for this idea?
>> >>
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >
>> >> Given it is Open-Source and probably should encompass both Intel and
>> >> Xilinx?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh I wouldn't worry right now about being Intel compatible it seems like
>> > Altera is destined to survive Intel(who has brought no visible innovation
>> > to the sub $500 socfpga market in their time),
>> > right now Xilinx is holding the lead (the soft spot), so let's focus on
>> > what we currently have available to play with....
>> >
>> Oh, OK. But just for the "maybe" in the distant future, I don't think it
>> should be completely vendor locked and some "generic" API should be
>> prepared.
>>
>
> What I meant was Xilinx seem to be in the zone right now If we create
> something generic based on some ot their "stuff" I'm sure other vendors will
> follow suit.
>
>
>>
>> BTW, should the partial reconfiguration part be "real-time"? Without the
>> shutdown of the parts which are not being reconfigured?
>>
> There can be several (many) PR regions:
> I/O's to a PR region are "frozen" (only) while it is reconfigured.
> When you reconfigure a pr region all other parts (including other PR regions)
> act like static regions (keep running).
>
Thought so and makes sense. I am just thinking about the netting (connections
of pins) and which issues would that raise.
Cern.
>>
>> Cern.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Cern.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Michael B.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Sep 27, 2019, 23:03 by >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> :
>> >>
>> >> > Been doing some (extremely light) reading into AXI/CHI and besides
>> >> > discovering that it will need many 180° world-view changes before even
>> >> > basic understanding sets in it looks like the possibility of memory
>> >> > access/sharing is real. Differently than I thought but still good
>> >> > enough.
>> >> >
>> >> > Comes to mind how much of needed work is already done by vendor and
>> >> > community and how much it would need to be done (programmed) by
>> >> > Machinekit?
>> >> >
>> >> > Also took high altitude look into C/C++ HLS and discovered that it
>> >> > looks like something even I could do. That's cool.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cern.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sep 26, 2019, 23:04 by >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> :
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:19:04 UTC+2, >> >> [email protected]
>> >> >> <>>> <>>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Sep 26, 2019, 17:53 by >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> <>>>
>> >> >>> :
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > I'm probably the wrong guy to answer this question as I'm a noob
>> >> >>> > into how sw os's work, but regarding linux memory access from the
>> >> >>> > fpga:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> Thanks. Sorry for probably idiotic questions, I am noob about FPGA
>> >> >>> development.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ok :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > A (hw) function in fpga (also with dma channels), can address any
>> >> >>> > linux memory location (even sw restricted ones).
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > If needed it is also possible to setup say like a 64KB dual port
>> >> >>> > shared memory block inside the fpga fabric and have both fpga and
>> >> >>> > linux access to that.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> Are both solutions useful for this scenario? I imagine that the
>> >> >>> frequency of change will be lot higher on FPGA side than on Linux
>> >> >>> side. For example the encoder counter will be updated almost
>> >> >>> constantly.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Cern.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well on the fpga side you don't have any cpu-like structure that
>> >> >> governs every thing,
>> >> >> only clock signals, and flags
>> >> >> and every function you implement runs on it's own simultaneously (in
>> >> >> parallel) (think 1 sw core for every function)
>> >> >> on every clock cycle.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:48:35 UTC+2, >> >> >>
>> >> >>> > [email protected] <>>> <>>> <>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Sep 26, 2019, 01:29 by >> >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>>
>> >> >>> >> <>>> <>>> :
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > Well current state is that PR (Partial Reconfiguration) is brand
>> >> >>> >> > new to the OS (Open Source) world,
>> >> >>> >> > as > IntelfPGA (former Altera) "just" have promised it for their
>> >> >>> >> > 19.1 release (no lite version out yet), <>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> <>>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> <>>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100 <>> >> >> https://github.com/
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/>>> <>> https://github.com/
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/>>> >>> >> machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>>
>> >> >>> >> > 100 <>> >> https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100 <>> https://github.com/>>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/100>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> > >>> >
>> >> >>> >> > on the contrary Xilinx have sneaked it out very quietly with
>> >> >>> >> > their Vivado 2019.1 release this summer <>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> <>>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> <>>
>> >> >>> >> > https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100 <>> >> >> https://github.com/
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/>>> <>> https://github.com/
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/>>> >>> >> machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>>
>> >> >>> >> > 100 <>> >> https://github.com/ <https://github.com/>>> >>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100 <>> https://github.com/>>
>> >> >>> >> > machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/>> 100
>> >> >>> >> > <https://github.com/machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/100>>> >>> >>>
>> >> >>> >> > >>> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > So while the idea has had time to settle in this old thread, the
>> >> >>> >> > possibility of implementation here in Machinekit is brand
>> >> >>> >> > new.... :-)
>> >> >>> >> > Michael B
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> Well,
>> >> >>> >> and how it is with the memory? And with the bus connection between
>> >> >>> >> hard ARM processor and FPGA fabric? Because now we have the HAL
>> >> >>> >> memory block locked into RAM with HAL library enabled allocating
>> >> >>> >> and memory (alignment) management from Linux side. But I presume
>> >> >>> >> that for FPGA-side components, that would not be good enough and
>> >> >>> >> this memory block will have to be directly in FPGA fabric so the
>> >> >>> >> components can use this space as a "register", right? Will then be
>> >> >>> >> possible to atimically access this memory (or variables there
>> >> >>> >> stored) both from Linux running on an ARM core and component in
>> >> >>> >> FPGA fabric? (I mean as a direct memory access, zero-copy, not
>> >> >>> >> some memory synchronization.)
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Cern.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:49:04 UTC+2, >> >> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> > [email protected] <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> I am late to the party, I know, sorry, but this idea is very
>> >> >>> >> >> interesting to me. As I know that perspectives and opinions
>> >> >>> >> >> change, I would like to inquire about the current state. If all
>> >> >>> >> >> in this thread is still valid or if it was redacted in some
>> >> >>> >> >> way?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> I need to wrap my head around this concept, but fundamentally
>> >> >>> >> >> speaking, I see no reason why it should not be possible and
>> >> >>> >> >> even how it is that much different from the current state.
>> >> >>> >> >> Because, currently the operation on HAL is discrete and
>> >> >>> >> >> sequential. But only up to the point. As I see it, the basic
>> >> >>> >> >> structure of HAL is the input and output of each block
>> >> >>> >> >> (component). What is happening inside the component is a black
>> >> >>> >> >> box and of no particular interest to the user or a system. That
>> >> >>> >> >> "happening" is enabled by so called threads or tasks (on the
>> >> >>> >> >> Linux OS side), but actually from theoretical point of view are
>> >> >>> >> >> also of no importance.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Given the dawn of multicore, we can have multiple threads
>> >> >>> >> >> running independent on each other on different isolated
>> >> >>> >> >> CPU/cores all reaching the same memory. There is still the
>> >> >>> >> >> limit that threads on one instance has to be run in increments
>> >> >>> >> >> of the first one, but I am not sure if that is real limit or
>> >> >>> >> >> just something nobody changed from LinuxCNC days. (Because
>> >> >>> >> >> really, it is nonsense.)
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> If you can somehow pass-through the memory (I/O) from FPGA-side
>> >> >>> >> >> HAL to Linux-side HAL, I think you are pretty much done and you
>> >> >>> >> >> have HAL in FPGA. (HostMot2 FPGA firmware is also a HAL type,
>> >> >>> >> >> but you have the ugly read/write functions. I call it the
>> >> >>> >> >> LinuxCNC way of thinking about it.)
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Because then it will be the same old, same old.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> And that opens up some very interesting possibilities.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> BTW, I have only very rough understanding about FPGA
>> >> >>> >> >> development. But that SystemC looks extremely promising.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Cern.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
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>> >> >>> > website: > >> >> >> http://www.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>> http://www.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> <>> >> http://www.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>> http://www.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> >>> <>> >> >>
>> >> >>> > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >>> > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >>> > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >>> > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> > blog: > >> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>> http://blog.machinekit.io
>> >> >>> > <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >>> <>> >> http://blog.machinekit.io
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>> >> >>> > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >>> > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>> > github: > >> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit
>> >> >>> > <https://github.com/machinekit>>> <>>
>> >> >>> > https://github.com/machinekit <https://github.com/machinekit>>> >>>
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>> >> >>> > <https://github.com/machinekit>>> <>>
>> >> >>> > https://github.com/machinekit <https://github.com/machinekit>>> >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> <>> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit
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>> >> >>> > <https://github.com/machinekit>>> <>>
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>> >> >>> > msgid/machinekit/b430e32c->> 13cc-47d2-ab88-3da6aa31a293%>> >> >>
>> >> >>> > 40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=
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>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >> .
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>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> website: > >> >> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>>
>> >> >> <>> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> >> blog: >
>> >> >> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >>> >>
>> >> >> github: > >> >> https://github.com/machinekit
>> >> >> <https://github.com/machinekit>>> <>> https://github.com/machinekit
>> >> >> <https://github.com/machinekit>>> >>> <>> >>
>> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit <https://github.com/machinekit>>> <>>
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>> >> >> 6a29-4653-92a9-5fd90b428b03%>> >> 40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=
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>> >> >> >>> >> .
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > website: >> >> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>>
>> >> > <>> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >>> blog: >>
>> >> > >> http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> >> > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >>> github: >>
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>> >> > >>> .
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > website: > >> http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>>> >> blog: > >>
>> > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> <>>
>> > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>>> >> github: > >>
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>> > >> .
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>>
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