Sep 26, 2019, 01:29 by [email protected]: > Well current state is that PR (Partial Reconfiguration) is brand new to the > OS (Open Source) world, > as > IntelfPGA (former Altera) "just" have promised it for their 19.1 release > (no lite version out yet), > <https://github.com/machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/100> > on the contrary Xilinx have sneaked it out very quietly with their Vivado > 2019.1 release this summer > <https://github.com/machinekit/mksocfpga/issues/100> > > So while the idea has had time to settle in this old thread, the possibility > of implementation here in Machinekit is brand new.... :-) > Michael B > Well, and how it is with the memory? And with the bus connection between hard ARM processor and FPGA fabric? Because now we have the HAL memory block locked into RAM with HAL library enabled allocating and memory (alignment) management from Linux side. But I presume that for FPGA-side components, that would not be good enough and this memory block will have to be directly in FPGA fabric so the components can use this space as a "register", right? Will then be possible to atimically access this memory (or variables there stored) both from Linux running on an ARM core and component in FPGA fabric? (I mean as a direct memory access, zero-copy, not some memory synchronization.)
Cern. > > On Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:49:04 UTC+2, [email protected] wrote: > >> I am late to the party, I know, sorry, but this idea is very interesting to >> me. As I know that perspectives and opinions change, I would like to inquire >> about the current state. If all in this thread is still valid or if it was >> redacted in some way? >> >> I need to wrap my head around this concept, but fundamentally speaking, I >> see no reason why it should not be possible and even how it is that much >> different from the current state. Because, currently the operation on HAL is >> discrete and sequential. But only up to the point. As I see it, the basic >> structure of HAL is the input and output of each block (component). What is >> happening inside the component is a black box and of no particular interest >> to the user or a system. That "happening" is enabled by so called threads or >> tasks (on the Linux OS side), but actually from theoretical point of view >> are also of no importance. >> >> Given the dawn of multicore, we can have multiple threads running >> independent on each other on different isolated CPU/cores all reaching the >> same memory. There is still the limit that threads on one instance has to be >> run in increments of the first one, but I am not sure if that is real limit >> or just something nobody changed from LinuxCNC days. (Because really, it is >> nonsense.) >> >> If you can somehow pass-through the memory (I/O) from FPGA-side HAL to >> Linux-side HAL, I think you are pretty much done and you have HAL in FPGA. >> (HostMot2 FPGA firmware is also a HAL type, but you have the ugly read/write >> functions. I call it the LinuxCNC way of thinking about it.) >> >> Because then it will be the same old, same old. >> >> And that opens up some very interesting possibilities. >> >> BTW, I have only very rough understanding about FPGA development. But that >> SystemC looks extremely promising. >> >> Cern. >> > > > > -- > website: > http://www.machinekit.io <http://www.machinekit.io>> blog: > > http://blog.machinekit.io <http://blog.machinekit.io>> github: > > https://github.com/machinekit <https://github.com/machinekit> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Machinekit" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/a9420e6d-4f39-46e2-97c1-d4f7af69c89e%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/a9420e6d-4f39-46e2-97c1-d4f7af69c89e%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>> > . > -- website: http://www.machinekit.io blog: http://blog.machinekit.io github: https://github.com/machinekit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Machinekit" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/machinekit/Lphp8TW--3-1%40tuta.io.
