-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 25/01/13 09:27, Murat Yildizoglu wrote: > I have in the pas used Tex2word from Chikrii software with success. Equationa > are correctly > translated in this case, figures not, but I prefer to include them in the > optimal format for > Word myself. This is commercial software (a plugin for Word), but it is not > expensive and has > even a lower education pricing policy. It uses MathType (but the free version > of it is enough). > Thanks - I'll keep it in mind when I have convert again. And the academic pricing is acceptable if it keeps co-authors happy....
And as I get MSOffice via the University for free and it runs nicely under wine, it might be an option. Cheers, Rainer > Murat > > Le vendredi 25 janvier 2013, Rainer M Krug a ￩crit : > > On 25/01/13 05:20, Jerry wrote: > >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > >> On 24/01/13 01:02, Jerry wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 22/01/13 23:37, Jerry wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013, at 1:38 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, I played with pandoc a while back and its conversion of a very >>>>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>>>> LyX file to Word was not perfect. I went LyX -> LaTeX -> docx. I did >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> investigate setting options very much. I recall that equations made >>>>>>>>>> the trip >>>>>>>>>> and were editable in Word 2011 (Mac) built-in equation editor, but >>>>>>>>>> equation >>>>>>>>>> numbers were lost. Today's effort, also on a simple but different >>>>>>>>>> document, >>>>>>>>>> LyX -> LaTeX -> docx, one equation was not typeset (only the markup >>>>>>>>>> appeared), a .eps file was not found even though it was present, and >>>>>>>>>> section >>>>>>>>>> labels were translated as literal text. Converting to .odt was >>>>>>>>>> worse, and at >>>>>>>>>> least once caused it to crash when it was attempting to repair what >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> thought was a damaged converted file. (But what _doesn't_ cause >>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice >>>>>>>>>> to crash?) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also tried to go the LyX -> LaTeX -> docx route, but the results >>>>>>>>> were not as >>>>>>>>> usable as via xhtml. So I would suggest to try the route via xhtml. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How did you get from XHTML -> docx? Pandoc (according to the first >>>>>>>> paragraph of >>>>>>>> the user's manual) does not accept XHTML input files. Jerry >>>>> >>>>> Well - using >>>>> >>>>> pandoc -o newfile.docx newfile1.xhtml >>>>> >>>>> works as expected and produces a docx file. >>>>> >>>>> So I can only say it works. I only used the converters and format >>>>> definitions as >>>>> mentioned earlier. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Truy it: >>>>> >>>>> simple lyx file, export to LyXhtml and use above command to convert to >>>>> docx. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Rainer >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Ranier. I have just now tried this on a simple document (two >>>>>> equations, two >>>>>> sections, a footnote, a figure with caption, a greyed comment, and two >>>>>> cross >>>>>> references (to an equation and to a section). >>>>> >>>>>> As usual, the LyXHTML looks very good. But in the docx, the equations >>>>>> are not >>>>>> rendered and contain spurious text, the figure caption and figure name >>>>>> are separated >>>>>> from the figure and are shown as normal text, spurious text is inserted >>>>>> relating to >>>>>> the image, and all of the cross-references move the cursor to the title >>>>>> rather than >>>>>> to where it should move. The footnote is printed as ordinary text as is >>>>>> the greyed >>>>>> text also. > >> Without doubt this is not perfect. As I said, I can't comment on equations >> and I did not >> worry about the captions. Have you tried LyX -> eLyXer -> pandoc as well? > >>>>> >>>>>> pandoc -o newfile.odt newfile1.xhtml >>>>> >>>>>> results in a similar result, but with completely nonfunctional cross >>>>>> references and >>>>>> no spurious text relating to the figure image. >>>>> >>>>>> I'm using OS X, LyX 2.0.5, Word 2011, LibreOffice 4.0.0.1, and pandoc >>>>>> 1.9.4.2. > >> For my case (no crossreferences, no inseted references, but formating in the >> text (italic >> for species names) and only some pictures which I deleted anyway to reduce >> the size of the >> docx as I had to email it for further revisions it worked better and faster >> then any other >> solution. > >> Have you tried to go ia LaTeX and pandoc? > >>> Yes. I have commented on this recently. > > Sorry - must have overlooked it. > >>> LyX -> LaTeX (plain) -> docx using pandoc: > >>> Word (Mac 2011) complains "This file is corrupt and cannot be opened." It >>> then offers to >>> repair the file. Results are: inline equation translated and editable but >>> with two minor >>> errors (it did not recognize lim as a function and set it in italics)--this >>> shows that >>> equation translation _can_ work; standalone equation not translated, TeX >>> code is displayed >>> between two $ signs, and equation number is lost; image caption is lost, >>> but the spurious >>> word "image" is displayed nearby; labels (section, equation) are set as >>> ordinary text >>> within their respective domains; cross-references are displayed as ordinary >>> text but with >>> nonexistent links; comments are displayed as normal text but in a separate >>> paragraph, thus >>> splitting the paragraph in which it is contained into two paragraphs; and >>> indexed terms >>> are lost. > > >>> LyX -> LaTeX (plain) -> odt using pandoc: Opened with LibreOffice. The file >>> is reported as >>> corrupt and the program offers to repair it. Results--similar to above for >>> Word except: >>> inline equation is very poorly typeset and is not editable using the >>> built-in equation >>> editor; instead of the picture that was supposed to be a figure, a box is >>> displayed which >>> reads "Read error"; the word "image" is not displayed; clicking on the >>> footnote cross >>> reference moves the cursor to the crossreference; > > >> I guess some manual fidelling will always be necessary, and for my document >> the fidelling >> required after pandoc was considerably less as after any other approach. > >> Please keep us posted about any progress. > >>> I'm afraid there won't likely be any more progress as I have spent a lot of >>> time on this >>> already, plus I have exhausted most of the obvious options. OTOH, if one >>> considers the >>> combinatorics of combining various options, I'm sure there are more options >>> than any one >>> person has time to try. > > Conversion is a tricky business, and depending on your needs and > expectations, different paths > work (once of has different requirements then regular reviewing and > commenting, equations, > graphs, many cross-references, etc.). > > >>> Unless there is progress from other quarters in the meantime, I suppose >>> when the occasion >>> arises to make a conversion, I'll look into commercial options on Windows. > > Do they work as expected and reliably? > >>> As a Mac user, I can of course run Windows, but I don't relish the idea of >>> buying another >>> copy of Office, plus converter software for Windows. I don't mind paying >>> for commercial >>> software except Microsoft stuff which I find is generally of poor quality >>> (in fact, I >>> often prefer it) but the extra hassle of going this route, with still >>> unknown results, is >>> not appealing. I think I recall a Windows converter from LaTeX to Word >>> where there was >>> also offered a manual conversion of anything that their software did not >>> convert, for an >>> additional fee per megabyte over a certain level of file size. What a mess. > > True - even though commercial, could you please report back if you find a > usable solution, as > hee are quite a few users fighting regul;arly with conversion issues. > > >>> Thanks for your suggestions. > > Pleasure, sorry that they didn't help much, > > Cheers, > > Rainer > >>> Jerry > >> Cheers, > >> Rainer > >>>>> >>>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You should try both converters (the build in and eLyXe), as they >>>>>>>>> performed >>>>>>>>> differently on different objects. As my document did not contain any >>>>>>>>> equations, >>>>>>>>> I can not comment on that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I must say, that I also used pandoc to convert to odt and then >>>>>>>>> converted the >>>>>>>>> odt to docx with OpenOffice (this was before LibreOffice...) and it >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> worked well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can only suggest to try the different paths out and see which works >>>>>>>>> best, >>>>>>>>> and then post your experiences here and add them to >>>>>>>>> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6042 so that there is some progress >>>>>>>>> with pandoc >>>>>>>>> support in LyX. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rainer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jerry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>> > > > > > > > -- Prof. Murat Yildizoglu > > Universit￩ Montesquieu Bordeaux IV GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113) Avenue L￩on Duguit > 33608 Pessac > cedex France > > Bureau : E-331 > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://yildizoglu.info > > http://www.twitter.com/yildizoglu > - -- Rainer M. 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