Can LXC use cgroups without libcgroup? For that matter, just to be clear, can LXC use cgroups without cgroup-bin? In what use case would using LXC without cgroups make sense? Aren't cgroups fundamental to LXC? If cgroups are fundamental to LXC, then whatever is needed to make LXC capable of using cgroups needs to be a requirement regardless of whether that requirement is stable. I don't claim to know specifically which functionality and or packages are the real underlying dependencies, but it seems to me that it doesn't make sense to me to remove a real dependencies, whatever they may actually be, based on stability. If the dependency is unstable, then the dependent is unstable. Stability should not come at the price of making a package purposeless. I'm not saying that is actually what is happening, but based on my presumptions, which presumptions I am actively asking you to correct, that is what appears to have occurred in Ubuntu. Thank you everyone for your contributions. LXC is an awesome technology and I hope to have it up and running soon.
serge, as a fellow member of the Ubuntu community, please do not refer to others' efforts as 'papering over' even if it perhaps is in response to someone saying that your efforts are pointless or stupid. I apologize for my wording about cgroup-lite. I don't understand the rational behind it based on my very likely incorrect presumptions, but I want to understand. Thank you for your contributions. Alex Eagar On 11/4/11, Serge Hallyn <[email protected]> wrote: > Quoting Daniel Baumann ([email protected]): >> On 11/04/2011 01:16 PM, Huang Liang wrote: >> > Check out toft: https://github.com/exceedhl/toft. It provides rpm and >> > deb packages which already handles the dependencies on centos and >> > ubuntu. >> >> why would one want this instead of using lxc from your distributions >> repository? >> >> > Moreover, it packages the bind and dhcp setup on the host >> > machine and ships with pre-created images, saves a lot of time of >> > hassling around these issues. >> >> that particular 'problem' we're going to solve in debian within about a >> week when lxc provides linux-container (a generic version of something >> similar what lxcguest in ubuntu and for ubuntu-only does) and live-build >> therefore can build proper system images for lxc containers that are >> shipped through .debs and which are going to be prefered over caches in >> /var/cache/lxc in debians lxc package. don't know what ubuntu has in >> mind for such use cases. > > We aim to fix the two things that lxcguest is currently papering > over so that the same unmodified ubuntu install can be used in > kvm, lxc, or on bare metal. > > -serge > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Lxc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Lxc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxc-users
