I’ve always felt like installing something that isn’t needed then removing it
was a nasty way to do things. This was the way the software center was for the
longest time.
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MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
Desktop Architect
Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Johan van Dijk
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 2:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
They can be removed again after an upgrade…but takes more effort if they are
different every time…
Still don’t read a solution for the language packs which we have in our
“custom” image today and seem to be different with the W10 releases…
(not just 1 LP but multiple so users on the various location can choose the
language they want to use.)
As mentioned…within an Enterprise it’s not always that easy to “disturb” users
with updating/upgrading items so it needs to be as efficient as possible…(and
since these OS upgrades aren’t small)….
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
We’re talking about Candy Crush being pushed down to machines? If so, see
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mniehaus/archive/2015/11/23/seeing-extra-apps-turn-them-off.aspx,
easy to turn them off. (This has nothing to do with the apps in the image –
they aren’t in the image, the store pushes them down after logging in.)
And you’re right, upgrading with a custom image is not supported.
The issue with removed apps coming back after an upgrade (e.g. you removed them
from 1507, then you installed 1511 and found that they were back) is something
we’re aware of and looking at. But it’s fairly easy to just remove them again.
Also, remember that the support timelines for a non-LTSB release isn’t fixed.
We have guaranteed that there will be at least two CBB releases in market at
all times, and have stated that we’ll only do 2-3 upgrades per year. So it’s
quite possible (likely even) that the support timeline will be longer than a
year.
Thanks,
-Michael
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan van Dijk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:45 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
We’re in the same boat….and just because of that we’re inviting Microsoft
onsite next month to provide some advice on this…
LTSB is a bit too far (and not recommended by several people)…so an in place
upgrade of a customized image would be the best solution but is apparently not
supported (if it was already working)…
Again…unless I’m missing something this is not suitable for real global
operating Enterprise.
But so are the several Windows 10 Features….like Cortana…only working with OS
configured in US English language…oh well…
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:36 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
Just when I was about to change my mind about going LTSB on everything I learn
this. ☹
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John Marcum
MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
Desktop Architect
Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan van Dijk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
What I totally don’t understand from Microsoft is the lack of Enterprise
support for this new feature….
I have already a hard time to keep my machines compliant, security patch
related, not even discussing the monthly sh*t hat happens with the non security
(office) related patches...
And really Microsoft….Candy Crush in an Enterprise version….?...
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:20 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
well as each release of Windows 10 will have security updates support for one
year you'll have to jump to a supported release in order to remain up to date
(security wise), so 1507 will expire support wise in 1607 so how can you
migrate from that to the next version, using windows 10 servicing..
I agree it would be nice if there was better control of the apps/features that
come with each new release but i guess that's work in progress for Microsoft,
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Johan van Dijk
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Jep…and different with every release….in TH2 there was different “crap”
compared to the August release….
So…for real Global Enterprises supporting various languages and still want to
work with one image I still don’t see the benefit of this “as a service”
item....
Unless I’m unaware of a certain hidden feature…
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:55 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
I didn’t know this… So if you’ve removed the crap that nobody wants on their
enterprise PC’s it comes back each time?????
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John Marcum
MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
Desktop Architect
Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan van Dijk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:43 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
But only original versions…..no custom images…..so you get all the “garbage”
back after every upgrade…
No fun if you have custom images with all the languages in it (which also need
to be upgraded with every release)…
Unless that has been changed recently…
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:02 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
think of it this way, windows 10 comes out in a new flavor every 6 or so
months, so far there was the RTM release in 1507, then there was threshold 2 in
1511, no doubt redstone will release at some date and be known as 16xx (dont
know what month hence xx),
you need to be ConfigMgr Current Branch 1511 (or whatever version it will be at
by then) in order to do windows 10 servicing on windows 10
windows 10 servicing is the ability to 'offer' and deploy patches to
collections of windows 10 computers, much like you download and upgrade from
windows 10 1507 to windows 10 1511
there is a large 'upgrade' file involved
you can do this automatically on a preset basis in Current Branch by defining
servicing plans or you can upgrade these computers when you want by deploying
the updates to them using normal SUP,
lastly you can also use the Upgrade Task sequence to upgrade these computers in
addition to upgrading other editions of windows such as windows 7 or windows 8
to windows 10
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Marcum, John
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Like update to a new “branch”
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MCITP, MCTS, MCSA
Desktop Architect
Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Robert Spinelli
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
To clarify since I work with Henry Wilson and he is insane..
When you say servicing you’re talking about Win10 branches or saying servicing
it as you won’t be able to do HW inventory / SW inventory.. etc.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Spinelli
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
That’s good to know.
When you say service it, what would be an example of “servicing’ it.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:29 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 - Windows 10 TH2
yes you can deploy it but if you want to service it or any release of windows
10 going forward you need to move to SCCM 1511.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Robert Spinelli
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I’ve read bunch of blogs, but guess my brain isn’t working since its Friday,
since it’s still not clear to me.
• https://www.systemcenterdudes.com/sccm-2012-windows-10-th2-1511/
•
http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrteam/archive/2015/10/27/system-center-configmgr-support-for-win-10-and-intune.aspx
Am I able to deploy Windows 10 Threshold 2 with SCCM 2012 R2 SP1 CU2 or do I
need to go to SCCM 1511?
Thanks
Rob
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