Note A and C are addressed in the -09 revision I sent out in Friday. 

Dino

> On Jan 28, 2018, at 5:57 PM, Albert Cabellos <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Thanks for all the comments, from my understanding of this thread the 
> following list of items *seem* to have rough consensus (all except B - change 
> definitions for EID and RLOC).
> 
> Joel, Luigi->How should we proceed now?
> 
> Albert
> 
> ---
> 
> A.- Remove definitions of PA and PI
> 
> C.- In section 5.3, change the description of the encap/decap operation 
> concerning how to deal with ECN and DSCP bits to (new text needs to be 
> validated by experts):
> 
> When doing ITR/PITR encapsulation:
> 
> o  The outer-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field, in the case 
> of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the inner-header 'Time to Live' field.
> 
> o  The outer-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP) field (or the 
> 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the 
> inner-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) 
> considering the exception listed below.
> 
> o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and 7 of the 
> IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in order to avoid 
> discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. ITR encapsulation MUST copy 
> the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the inner header to the outer header. 
> Re-encapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the stripped outer 
> header to the new outer header.
> 
> When doing ETR/PETR decapsulation:
> 
>  o  The inner-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field, in the case 
> of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the outer-header 'Time to Live' field, when 
> the Time to Live value of the outer header is less than the Time to Live 
> value of the inner header.  Failing to perform this check can cause the Time 
> to Live of the inner header to increment across encapsulation/decapsulation 
> cycles.  This check is also performed when doing initial encapsulation, when 
> a packet comes to an ITR or PITR destined for a LISP site.
> 
> o  The inner-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP) field (or the 
> 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the 
> outer-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) 
> considering the exception listed below.
> 
> o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and 7 of the 
> IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in order to avoid 
> discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. If the 'ECN' field contains a 
> congestion indication codepoint (the value is '11', the Congestion 
> Experienced (CE) codepoint), then ETR decapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' 
> field from the stripped outer header to the surviving inner header that is 
> used to forward the packet beyond the ETR.  These requirements preserve CE 
> indications when a packet that uses ECN traverses a LISP tunnel and becomes 
> marked with a CE indication due to congestion between the tunnel endpoints.
> 
> Note that if an ETR/PETR is also an ITR/PITR and chooses to re-encapsulate 
> after decapsulating, the net effect of this is that the new outer header will 
> carry the same Time to Live as the old outer header minus 1.
> 
> Copying the Time to Live (TTL) serves two purposes: first, it preserves the 
> distance the host intended the packet to travel; second, and more 
> importantly, it provides for suppression of looping packets in the event 
> there is a loop of concatenated tunnels due to misconfiguration.  See Section 
> 18.3 for TTL exception handling for traceroute packets.
> 
> D.- Simplify section ‘Router Locator Selection’ stating that the data-plane 
> MUST follow what´s stored in the map-cache (priorities and weights), the 
> remaining text should go to an OAM document.
> 
> E.- Rewrite Section “Routing Locator Reachability” considering the following 
> changes:
> 
> *    Keep bullet point 1 (examine LSB), 6 (receiving a data-packet) and 
> Echo-Nonce
> *    Move to 6833bis bullet point 2 (ICMP Network/Host Unreachable),3 (hints 
> from BGP),4 (ICMP Port Unreachable),5 (receive a Map-Reply as a response) and 
> RLOC probing
> 
> F.- Move Solicit-Map-Request to 6833bis
> 
> G.- Move sections 16 (Mobility Considerations), 17 (xTR Placement 
> Considerations), 18 (Traceroute Consideration) to a new OAM document
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the detail review Padma. A new update to -09 is enclosed with a 
>> diff file. I will wait until next week to post.
>> 
>> I have reflected all of your comments and most of Luigi’s comments. The only 
>> issues open are:
>> 
>> (1) Section movement from RFC6830 to RFC6833.
>> 
>> (2) If an OAM document is needed.
>> 
>> Waiting for more working group concensus on this.
>> 
>> > Dear Dino and Albert
>> >
>> > The doc reads well.
>> > Please find thereafter some comments on the version- 09 you posted on the 
>> > list
>> >
>> > Page 4
>> > "Client-side:  Client-side is a term used in this document to indicate a 
>> > connection initiation attempt by an EID."
>> > PPE 1: Strictly speaking the EID is just an identifier and does not 
>> > initiate anything. Suggest something like this.
>> >
>> > "Client-side:  Client-side is a term used in this document to indicate a 
>> > connection initiation attempt by the end system (represented by an EID)”
>> 
>> Fixed. Put in your suggestion.
>> 
>> > Page 6
>> > The source EID is obtained via existing mechanisms used to set a host's 
>> > "local" IP address.  An EID used on the public Internet must have the same 
>> > properties as any other IP address used in that manner; this means, among 
>> > other things, that it must be globally unique.
>> >
>> > PPE 2: Shouldn't these two be MUST rather than must? Suggestion below
>> >
>> > The source EID is obtained via existing mechanisms used to set a host's 
>> > "local" IP address.  An EID used on the public Internet MUST have the same 
>> > properties as any other IP address used in that manner; this means, among 
>> > other things, that it MUST be globally unique.
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> > Page 8
>> > An EID maps to one or more RLOCs.
>> > PPE 3: Seems to contradict earlier explanation on negative mapping entry 
>> > where it is possible that an EID has NO RLOC.
>> 
>> I changed to “zero or more RLOCs.”.
>> 
>> > Page 8
>> > When using multiple mapping database systems, care must be taken to not 
>> > create re-encapsulation loops through misconfiguration.
>> >
>> > PPE 4: Suggest to add "re-encapsulation" in the list in Security 
>> > Considerations section as this is an exploit possibility.
>> 
>> I have removed the sentence. Because it actually is not true. If you use 
>> different mapping systems and circuitious forwarding occurs. The packet 
>> travels only until its TTL reaches 0. Using the rules for copy inner to 
>> outer and outer to inner during RTR re-encapsulation applies.
>> 
>> > Page 13
>> > "gleaned" mapping
>> >
>> > PPE 5: Suggest adding “glean mapping” in the definition section.
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> > Page 17
>> > "The KK-bits are a 2-bit field used when encapsualted packets are 
>> > encrypted."
>> >
>> > PPE 6: Nit - Typo "encapsualted" -> “encapsulated"
>> 
>> Fixed.
>> 
>> >
>> > Page 20
>> > "When the lookup succeeds, the locator-set  retrieved from the map-cache 
>> > is used to send the packet to the EID's topological location."
>> >
>> > PPE 7: Nit - Suggest capitalize L and S of "locator-set" for consistency 
>> > with rest of document.
>> 
>> Thanks. Done.
>> 
>> >
>> > Page 23
>> > "The server-side sets a Weight of 0..."
>> > PPE 8: Nit - For consistency in text change to "Weight of zero”.
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> > Page 23
>> > "Control is shared by the server- side determining the list and the client 
>> > determining load  distribution."
>> >
>> > PPE 9: Suggest use of "Client-side"
>> >
>> > "Control is shared by the server- side determining the list and the 
>> > client-side determining load distribution.”
>> 
>> Done.
>> 
>> > Page 24
>> > When a verified Map-Cache entry is stored, data gleaning no longer occurs 
>> > for subsequent packets that have a source EID that matches
>> > the EID-Prefix of the verified entry.[PE1]   This "gleaning" mechanism is 
>> > OPTIONAL.
>> >
>> > PPE 10: In section 16.2 later gleaning is used as a solution.  Changes in 
>> > the gleaned info could be an interesting way to update the cache fast 
>> > …however this text make it sound that this is not an option after first 
>> > packet.
>> 
>> It is an option when the ETR has no mapping to return packets. Once a 
>> mapping is cache, there is no point to glean since the mapping system 
>> verified the information the same as in the map-cache.
>> 
>> >
>> > Page 25
>> > "Note that trusting ICMP messages may  not be desirable, but neither is 
>> > ignoring them completely. Implementations are encouraged to follow current 
>> > best practices in treating these conditions."
>> >
>> > PPE 11: A reference would be useful if possible.
>> 
>> Added draft-ietf-opsec-icmp-filtering.
>> 
>> > Page 25
>> > "An ITR that participates in the global routing system can determine that 
>> > an RLOC is down if no BGP Routing Information Base (RIB) route exists that 
>> > matches the RLOC IP address."
>> >
>> > PPE 12: Isn't this true for any protocol entry not just a BGP entry? We 
>> > are really trying to determine if there is no route whatever the protocol.
>> 
>> Yes, we can generalize this. I changed text.
>> 
>> > Page 38
>> > "For a more detailed networkd design deployment recommendation, refer to 
>> > [RFC7215]."
>> >
>> > PPE 13: Nit typo "netword"-> “network"
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> > Page 40
>> > "By having the PE be the first router on the path to encapsulate, it can 
>> > choose a TE path first, and the ETR can decapsulate and Re-Encapsulate for 
>> > a new encapsuluation path to the destination end site."
>> >
>> > PPE 14: Nit Typo "encapsuluation" -> “encapsulation"
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> > Page 43
>> > "If the attacker spoofs the source RLOC, it can mount a DoS attack by 
>> > redirecting traffic to the spoofed victim;s RLOC, potentially overloading 
>> > it."
>> >
>> 
>> > PPE 15: Nit  typo "victim;s" -> “victim’s”
>> 
>> Changed.
>> 
>> Dino
>> 
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