Interesting, can you check if it is a feature of this camera or the new kernel? If you have OPI PC, can you check that?
On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 8:10:57 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: > > Look carefully at my sonix video parameters... > notice that there are two /dev/videoX devices > > This is done so that the screen display app can use the the > uncompressed stream while forwarding on the h.264 stream without > decompressing it. The uncompressed stream does not need much CPU to > display. > > jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video1 > --list-formats-ext > ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT > Index : 0 > Type : Video Capture > Pixel Format: 'YUYV' > Name : YUYV 4:2:2 > Size: Discrete 1280x720 > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 640x480 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 320x240 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Both MJPG and h.264 work at 720P30. > Index : 1 > Type : Video Capture > Pixel Format: 'MJPG' (compressed) > Name : Motion-JPEG > Size: Discrete 1280x720 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 640x480 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 320x240 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video2 > --list-formats-ext > ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT > Index : 0 > Type : Video Capture > Pixel Format: 'H264' (compressed) > Name : H.264 > Size: Discrete 1280x720 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 640x480 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > Size: Discrete 320x240 > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:55 PM, @lex <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Inspired by so many good arguments on USB uvc cameras i decided to test > one, > > a 720P HD used in ODROID, so you can take a look and see how good it is > for > > Orange Pi PC (Allwinner H3) and decide if having Encode/Decode by HW > worth > > the effort or we throw in the towel, it is up to you. > > > > This is simple test, done with Orange Pi PC, with a tuned 3.4.39 kernel > and > > with ssvb fex (TKaiser advice) to solve the so known temperature issues > this > > board faces when running at high speed. > > > > The uvc camera is ODROID 720 HD: > > [ 196.199875] ehci_irq: highspeed device connect > > [ 196.460139] usb 4-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using > sunxi-ehci > > [ 196.890710] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x84 > > [ 196.892434] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio > > [ 196.923986] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera > (1b71:0056) > > [ 196.938300] is_otg_flag: 0x0, > > [ 196.938479] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo > > [ 196.938489] USB Video Class driver (v1.1.1) > > [ 196.976118] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x84 > > > > > > As Jon said, you don't need to do anything, just plug it in and start > using > > the UVC camera compliant. No need to worry about drivers, etc.. > > This camera has MPJEG mode and YUV mode: > > ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT > > Index : 0 > > Type : Video Capture > > Pixel Format: 'MJPG' (compressed) > > Name : MJPEG > > Size: Discrete 1280x720 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 640x480 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 640x360 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 544x288 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 432x240 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 352x288 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 320x240 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 752x416 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 800x448 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 800x600 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 864x480 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 960x544 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 960x720 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 1024x576 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 1184x656 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > > > Index : 1 > > Type : Video Capture > > Pixel Format: 'YUYV' > > Name : YUV 4:2:2 (YUYV) > > Size: Discrete 640x480 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 640x360 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 544x288 > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 432x240 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 352x288 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 320x240 > > Interval: Discrete 0.017s (60.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.040s (25.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 752x416 > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 800x448 > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 864x480 > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 800x600 > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 960x544 > > Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 1024x576 > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 960x720 > > Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 1184x656 > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > Size: Discrete 1280x720 > > Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > > Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > > > > > > So i tested it with GuvcView, in YUV mode and MJPEG mode. > > > > I came to the following conclusion (but you can have your own): > > * CPU intensive usage, even for compressed MJPEG, this is necessary > because > > GuvcView needs to decompress MJPEG and render it on screen, so decoding > is > > by software. > > * Raised CPU temp. ~80C and all sort of issues that come with it. > > * UVC cameras will have good use for streaming MJPEG or H264, without > > rendering it to screen. Forget about Cheese, GuvcView and apps. Maybe it > is > > good for motion and OpenCV, you have to find out. > > > > Finally, have a look to image quality here: > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/113203245923875824895/6261286144173300082 > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/113203245923875824895/6261288269096376978 > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/113203245923875824895/6261280022112589490 > > > > > And you can compare it to the Cheap Orange Pi Camera here: > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/113203245923875824895/6248912774577238658 > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/113203245923875824895/6248917191401732482 > > > > > And Rosimildo, Orange PI PC has built in Microphone and you can grab > sound > > from it, again in order to sync the sound with image you need HW > encoding. > > > > This is my 2 cents. > > > > @lex > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 5:36:08 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Rosimildo DaSilva <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Jon, > >> > Thanks for yours always informative posts. > >> > > >> > I think someone should come up with a HDMI ==> CSI (MIPI ) interface > >> > board > >> > for these OrangePI PCs... it would be owesome...., instead of these > >> > gspca > >> > crap... they have now. > >> > >> newer Allwinner chips such as the A64 support MIPI displays. For > >> example the Pine64 uses the A64, but I don't know if they exposed the > >> DSI interface. > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Jon, maybe you can help me... I am looking for an 720p or 1080p > camera, > >> > H264 > >> > compressed video, and with Wired ( and WI-FI a plus ), with AUDIO > >> > input... > >> > something that has also AUDIO as input and not just video. > >> > If you know any cameras with that capability, and in the US$50 range, > >> > let me > >> > know. > >> > >> Look for little surveillance camera like this one: > >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/Vanxse%C2%AE-Pinhole-Security-Network-Surveillance/dp/B00QRM9AFG/ref=sr_1_1 > > >> They contain those standardized, square camera boards I linked to > earlier. > >> You need to access these over Ethernet. Internally most run Linux on an > >> ARM9. > >> > >> The Sonix chips support audio input. Don't know if that taobao board > >> exposes it. > >> > >> Here is C920 for $60 shipped. > >> http://www.wirelessoemshop.com/logitech-hd-pro-webcam-c920/ > >> It was at Amazon last week for $50 shipped but it is sold out now. > >> > >> If you drop h.264 and just use MJPG you can find USB cameras for $10. > >> > >> Look for deals on web cams. All web cams stream video and audio. > >> > >> > > >> > THanks, R > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 1:09:32 PM UTC-6, Jon Smirl wrote: > >> >> > >> >> gspca is around 10 years old and it pre-dates UVC. > >> >> > >> >> The 291 image chip can take higher resolution stills, but mine only > >> >> has a 720P sensor on it. > >> >> The 292 image chip has similar performance at 1080P. > >> >> > >> >> I have wasted far too much time trying to get Allwinner cameras > >> >> working properly and I won't touch them any more. > >> >> > >> >> Our current product uses a more advanced camera similar to this one: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://world.taobao.com/item/521668890252.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.ekoWOi#detail > > >> >> But these boards are too hard to interface with for casual use. The > >> >> main advantage to these chips is that they can simultaneously > provide > >> >> three versions of the h.264 stream at different resolutions. The > Sonix > >> >> chips are single stream but far easier to use. > >> >> > >> >> This is cheapest, decent h.264 720P camera I camera I am aware of - > >> >> $6.12 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://world.taobao.com/item/527850462938.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.d9CEzd#detail > > >> >> You would need to attach to it using Ethernet, USB access requires > >> >> custom firmware. > >> >> > >> >> Here are all of the modes supported by the 291 chips. > >> >> Note that it supports 720P30 h.264 > >> >> > >> >> this first mode is uncompressed, 480Mb USB limits it to 720P5 > >> >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video1 > >> >> --list-formats-ext > >> >> ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT > >> >> Index : 0 > >> >> Type : Video Capture > >> >> Pixel Format: 'YUYV' > >> >> Name : YUYV 4:2:2 > >> >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 640x480 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 320x240 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> > >> >> Both MJPG and h.264 work at 720P30. > >> >> Index : 1 > >> >> Type : Video Capture > >> >> Pixel Format: 'MJPG' (compressed) > >> >> Name : Motion-JPEG > >> >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 640x480 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 320x240 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> > >> >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video2 > >> >> --list-formats-ext > >> >> ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT > >> >> Index : 0 > >> >> Type : Video Capture > >> >> Pixel Format: 'H264' (compressed) > >> >> Name : H.264 > >> >> Size: Discrete 1280x720 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 640x480 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> Size: Discrete 320x240 > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.033s (30.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.050s (20.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.067s (15.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.100s (10.000 fps) > >> >> Interval: Discrete 0.200s (5.000 fps) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, @lex <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Thanks Jon. > >> >> > > >> >> > I have some thoughts on this proposed hardware solution: > >> >> > > >> >> > * This camera will not be recognized as uvc usb device, unless you > >> >> > add > >> >> > it to > >> >> > the device list, no big deal i think. > >> >> > Your kernel is 3.3 but i think you or someone else already added > it > >> >> > to > >> >> > uvc > >> >> > device list. (i may be wrong), > >> >> > > >> >> > * Orange PI ONE has only one USB, so you will need to access the > >> >> > device > >> >> > remotely, > >> >> > > >> >> > * Grabbing the video can be done with V4l2 as usual, > >> >> > > >> >> > * I tested here a usb Labtec gspca camera which is VGA JPEG 30 > FPS, > >> >> > and > >> >> > its > >> >> > performance is about ~9 fps, that means USB camera tend to perform > >> >> > below > >> >> > specifications when not in Desktop, may be the usb bandwidth is a > >> >> > constraint, > >> >> > > >> >> > * Original OPI camera is $ 5.90 while the one you pointed is $ > 8.52 > >> >> > plus > >> >> > some usb cable and may need some wiring/soldering, > >> >> > > >> >> > * Logitec is out of question, i cannot get one for less than $ > >> >> > 100.00. > >> >> > And > >> >> > considering spending $ 10.00 / 15.00 on a sbc board and another $ > >> >> > 100.00 > >> >> > is > >> >> > only viable if you don't want to mess with software. > >> >> > > >> >> > * No tinkering, no learning and no solution for the upcoming > >> >> > Allwinner > >> >> > new > >> >> > devices going this route. > >> >> > > >> >> > So, guys lets's get back to work, the fight is not over yet. > >> >> > > >> >> > @lex > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:49:42 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> [33718.237465] usb 2-5.1: new high-speed USB device number 12 > using > >> >> >> ehci-pci > >> >> >> [33718.782014] usb 2-5.1: new high-speed USB device number 13 > using > >> >> >> ehci-pci > >> >> >> [33719.121687] usb 2-5.1: New USB device found, idVendor=18e3, > >> >> >> idProduct=5100 > >> >> >> [33719.121692] usb 2-5.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, > Product=1, > >> >> >> SerialNumber=3 > >> >> >> [33719.121696] usb 2-5.1: Product: USB 2.0 Camera > >> >> >> [33719.121698] usb 2-5.1: Manufacturer: Sonix Technology Co., > Ltd. > >> >> >> [33719.121701] usb 2-5.1: SerialNumber: SN0001 > >> >> >> [33719.122631] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera > >> >> >> (18e3:5100) > >> >> >> [33719.146885] uvcvideo: Unable to create debugfs 2-13 directory. > >> >> >> [33719.147213] input: USB 2.0 Camera as > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-5/2-5.1/2-5.1:1.0/input/input15 > >> >> >> jonsmirl@terra:/work/gm/linux-3.3-fa$ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:26 PM, @lex <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> > Can you please tell me the idVendor and idProduct for this > camera? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:08:21 PM UTC-3, @lex wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Err... That was new to me. Without researching how do you grab > >> >> >> >> video > >> >> >> >> from > >> >> >> >> this generic driver how good this camera performs? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 7:52:17 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl > wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:42 PM, @lex <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > Seems to be a nice camera, but that depends on your kernel > >> >> >> >>> > version. > >> >> >> >>> > There is no support for SN9C291 OV9712 on kernel v3.4.39. > >> >> >> >>> > And no support on odroid-3.8.30 on my U3 also. > >> >> >> >>> > Don't know about armbian legacy kernel version, but i don't > >> >> >> >>> > expect > >> >> >> >>> > there > >> >> >> >>> > will be support also. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> The camera does not need a specific driver, it uses the > generic > >> >> >> >>> USB > >> >> >> >>> Video driver. > >> >> >> >>> It is like a USB mouse or keyboard, you don't need a specific > >> >> >> >>> driver > >> >> >> >>> for every different one. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Drivers/Multimedia/Media USB/USB Video Class (UVC) > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Kconfig USB_VIDEO_CLASS > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> This support dates way back to around 2.4 or so. Almost every > >> >> >> >>> desktop > >> >> >> >>> web cam works using this driver. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:41:59 PM UTC-3, Jon Smirl > >> >> >> >>> > wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Manuel Braga > >> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 05:53:36 -0800 (PST) Rosimildo > DaSilva > >> >> >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> I did not mention, but I founf two issues withe blobs: > >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> >> a) Motion Detection causes segmentation fault, whenever > >> >> >> >>> >> >> enabled. > >> >> >> >>> >> >> b) FFMPEG complains that timestamp ( PTS/DTS ) are > missing > >> >> >> >>> >> >> on > >> >> >> >>> >> >> the > >> >> >> >>> >> >> H264 stream generated by the encoder... I've tried many > >> >> >> >>> >> >> things ( > >> >> >> >>> >> >> code > >> >> >> >>> >> >> is commented out ), but nothing worked. > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > There is another issue, that i believe to be important. > >> >> >> >>> >> > But for whatever reasons, it has to be constantly > >> >> >> >>> >> > remembered > >> >> >> >>> >> > about > >> >> >> >>> >> > its > >> >> >> >>> >> > existence. > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > And that issue is: > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > c) The proprietaries binary blobs don't have a clear > >> >> >> >>> >> > license > >> >> >> >>> >> > attached. > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > And in the copyright law, any "things" with "no license" > by > >> >> >> >>> >> > default > >> >> >> >>> >> > fell > >> >> >> >>> >> > in the "all rights reserved". > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> I gave up fighting with Allwinner's encoder long ago. It > is > >> >> >> >>> >> far > >> >> >> >>> >> easier > >> >> >> >>> >> to just plug in a USB based h.264 camera. You can easily > buy > >> >> >> >>> >> ones > >> >> >> >>> >> from > >> >> >> >>> >> Logitech for $50. > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> If you want it at the hardware level, look at chips from > >> >> >> >>> >> Sonix. > >> >> >> >>> >> Here > >> >> >> >>> >> is a board based on the SN9C291 for $8.50. The bare chips > are > >> >> >> >>> >> about > >> >> >> >>> >> $4. > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > https://world.taobao.com/item/40004211822.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.zGiipg#detail > > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> Note that this PCBA is the same price as most bare image > >> >> >> >>> >> sensors > >> >> >> >>> >> mounted on a flex cable. Plus I find it much easier to > wire > >> >> >> >>> >> things > >> >> >> >>> >> with a simple USB cable instead of an FFC. > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> The Sonix chips will appear as USB UVC devices when > plugged > >> >> >> >>> >> into > >> >> >> >>> >> Linux > >> >> >> >>> >> and they will need no special drivers. They also work on > >> >> >> >>> >> Windows. > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > -- > >> >> >> >>> >> > Manuel Braga > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >> > -- > >> >> >> >>> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > >> >> >> >>> >> > Google > >> >> >> >>> >> > Groups "linux-sunxi" group. > >> >> >> >>> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > >> >> >> >>> >> > from > >> >> >> >>> >> > it, > >> >> >> >>> >> > send > >> >> >> >>> >> > an email to [email protected]. > >> >> >> >>> >> > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> -- > >> >> >> >>> >> Jon Smirl > >> >> >> >>> >> [email protected] > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > -- > >> >> >> >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> >> >> >>> > Google > >> >> >> >>> > Groups > >> >> >> >>> > "linux-sunxi" group. > >> >> >> >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from > >> >> >> >>> > it, > >> >> >> >>> > send > >> >> >> >>> > an > >> >> >> >>> > email to [email protected]. > >> >> >> >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >> >>> Jon Smirl > >> >> >> >>> [email protected] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > >> >> >> > Groups > >> >> >> > "linux-sunxi" group. > >> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, > >> >> >> > send > >> >> >> > an > >> >> >> > email to [email protected]. > >> >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Jon Smirl > >> >> >> [email protected] > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > Groups > >> >> > "linux-sunxi" group. > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >> > send > >> >> > an > >> >> > email to [email protected]. > >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Jon Smirl > >> >> [email protected] > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "linux-sunxi" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> > an > >> > email to [email protected]. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jon Smirl > >> [email protected] > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "linux-sunxi" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > Jon Smirl > [email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. 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